5 GT Turbo project 4 years and counting

[Mark Davis]

Oh I have an engine loom too.

 

[Duncan Grier]

I could be tempted by the c1j efi bits if you end up breaking it. Already have spare adaptronic ecu

 

[jack]

Cheers mate I’m still in two minds tbh just seems a shame get rid of the c1j the amount of money I’ve thrown into it but just dosnt want to run right on efi and looking at your past builds aswell I just wonder do people actually hammer these little engines as I have never seen them to be any form of reliable if they do

 

[Mark Davis]

Have you looked into the loom @jack to diagnose your misfire problems ?

 

[jack]

Yes mate had it all stripped down change all sensors etc for genuine ones coil pack leads had the manifold apart resealed properly 2 sets of new injectors, pulled the head off checked valves etc no damage, compression tested. Engine had full rebuild before it was fitted but never ran it on the carb so I don’t know wether it’s down to the efi or engine problems .....

 

[Mark Davis]

Cheers mate I’m still in two minds tbh just seems a shame get rid of the c1j the amount of money I’ve thrown into it but just dosnt want to run right on efi and looking at your past builds aswell I just wonder do people actually hammer these little engines as I have never seen them to be any form of reliable if they do

I agree it does add up doing a swap, you go into it with a rough amount in your head but that is never the full story. There is always £20 here and there that end up into the £100’s before long.

You’ll probably get a decent amount back for your C1J stuff though to get the ball rolling.

That’s frustrating with the misfire, couldn’t Chris @ EFI help out with that ?

 

[jack]

Chris was baffled took it up to him twice. Would always be cyclinder two no matter what got changed

 

[Mark Davis]

That’s bizarre, I had a similar thing with my C1J on cylinder three but like you changed all the sensors and it seemed to clear it up. I tried lots of different plugs too until I settled on BR9EG

 

[jack]

Yeh tried about 4 sets of plugs even, genuine ford TPS genuine Bosch coil pack new leads shame I never had it running on a carb to atleast narrow it down a little

 

[Mark Davis]

@jack - this could be worth considering ?

 

[jack]

Cheers mate think I’m gonna go for some pikey build.....running engine change belts bolt the turbo to it and get chris map it low boost I’ll be happy with 230hp The Clio lads have done it with good results I’m sure James did a Clio 182 also and flogged it on

 

[Mark Davis]

Renault Clio Sport 172 Engine 182 2.0 16v F4R | eBay

Might be able to knock this guy down a bit?

 

[James5]

Cheers mate think I’m gonna go for some pikey build.....running engine change belts bolt the turbo to it and get chris map it low boost [emoji1787][emoji1787]I’ll be happy with 230hp The Clio lads have done it with good results I’m sure James did a Clio 182 also and flogged it on

Indeed i did do a low boost 182, using megane 225 parts including buying the 182 prob cost me £3.2k to do it all, I could prob have saved a bit buy getting a cheaper intercooler setup but I liked the one pipework.

Low boost is pretty good defo gives the f4r a kick that it needed from factory.

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[jack]

Renault Clio Sport 172 Engine 182 2.0 16v F4R | eBay

Might be able to knock this guy down a bit?

Cheers mate just messaged him waiting a reply although I’m weighing up the funds and may even give that forged bottom end a though .....:

 

[jack]

Right so turbo I’ve got some sort of t28 roller bearing unit atm I couldn’t tell you spec ect but I’m guessing it’s been messed with to suit a smaller engine. Would this be ok to use for the power I want or flog that on and get somthing else ???

 

[Mark Davis]

Right so turbo I’ve got some sort of t28 roller bearing unit atm I couldn’t tell you spec ect but I’m guessing it’s been messed with to suit a smaller engine. Would this be ok to use for the power I want or flog that on and get somthing else ???

The slippery slope begins

If it’s similar to a gt2560r then I made 230-240 with one of those on C1J. Is there no markings on the housings/core ?

 

[jack]

I’ll have a look and take some pics tonight I’m only looking for low boost atm but I’d be disappointed with anything less than 230bhp

 

[jack]

So the turbo I’ve got is a t28 full roller bearing with a 0.64 rear I think that be any good for a f4r or to small ???

 

[James5]

So the turbo I’ve got is a t28 full roller bearing with a 0.64 rear I think that be any good for a f4r or to small ???

Be fine most of the ED low boost kits run a cheap Chinese turbo with .64 rear with custom map scoff gets them to around 240-260bhp

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[jack]

Cheers mate I was worrying it’d be way to small obviously on the larger side for a c1j