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what price a new engine ?

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steve b

well, an overhauled one.

any idea how much an engine out, strip down and renewal of bearings, gaskets etc costs ?
(i am guessing that it would be a second mortgage job from Renault)
plus, any idea of the cost of just the parts ?
 
I paid ?995 incl VAT (exchange) from Renault for my engine back in December 2002, i think they are about ?12-1300 now, not sure what the waiting time is though.
 
mmmm

To be honest mate its much cheaper to rebuild one yourself. In an ideal world its best to get a spare engine, rebuild that swap with your current engine then rebuild that. Would still work out cheaper than a recon engine from renault, plus you would always have a spare rebuilt engine ready.
 
mmm

If you look in the members discount area you can see a list of engine rebuild parts I can get, as a rough estimate you could probably rebuild an engine for around the ?300 mark.
 
Re: mmm

craig.cc1 said:
If you look in the members discount area you can see a list of engine rebuild parts I can get, as a rough estimate you could probably rebuild an engine for around the ?300 mark.

Thats my kind of money :D

looks like i will be doing it myself.
i may be on the lookout for a spare engine soon then :(
 
Mine is being done as we speak. H/G, Head re con, pistons ect ect , the full works top to bottom inc fitting a few mods for me :wink: :D Its being done at my local renault specialist, they are saying its gonna be about ?1200- ?1300 Parts + lab & vat. Well worth it to keep the car on the road imo. I reckon by the time its on the road again i would of spent ?2k on it scince Feb. Wish i had the skillz to do it myself, would of saved me a few ? as most of the cost is in the labour
 
Swannie21:
what sort of time scale are they doing it in ?

i will probably do the rebuild myself (on a 2nd hand engine most likely coz i need the car to get to work -- unless i get my megane running and use that when the 21 is in bits -- but that means taxing and insuring the megane -- but then i dont have to buy a second engine -- but i can sell my engine once the new one is in -- aaaaaaaaggggghhhhh!!)
 
Re: mmmm

craig.cc1 said:
To be honest mate its much cheaper to rebuild one yourself. In an ideal world its best to get a spare engine, rebuild that swap with your current engine then rebuild that. Would still work out cheaper than a recon engine from renault, plus you would always have a spare rebuilt engine ready.

that depends how you look at it like this :shock: or like 8-[ or like this [-o<

No but, seriously, yes you do get a rebuilt engine if you do it yourself, but you get alot of parts brand new pistons liners head waterpump new clutch add all those parts up seperatley from Ruin U and then see what it costs a rebuilt unit from reno (Ruin U) :lol: is very good value for money and it comes with a years warrenty :wink:

The only problem is is waiting for a new lump on back order if there are none in Blighty 4 & 1/2 months in my case and I dont regret it yet :wink:

si
 
You dont get new pistons and liners with ur exchange engine from Reno mate. That old engine you gave in exchange, will have been shotblasted anything cost effective will have been binned, and replaced for new, and the expensive gear like the pistons and liners (good ones) will have been kept for re-use.

You are basically paying for Reno labour and warranty, yes its a good deal, but ur Dad could have done it for half that price, if he'd had time and energy.
 
good job I went to

Ruin U then LOL

I'd have trusted anything my dad had built though even above and beyond Reno, as he is not just a fitter but a qualified x engineer, with years of experience, including race prepared engines and competition engines for himself and road ones for me just wish I owned a full workshop jesus the things I'd like him to do to my J7R come to think of it PRV Too :wink:

si I'll get my dream soon i hope :wink: :wink:
 
Depends what bits you use and to what extent.

Craig, fully rebuild me a lump for ?300 and ill have your babies....
 
my problem is low oil pressure.
and puffs of blue smoke ...

my two problems are, low oil pressure and puffs of blue smoke
and ... thats it realy. :D

i will need new bearings as a 'must have'
new seals/gaskets go without saying.
new turbo is on the cards too.
piston rings may as will be done when its in bits
same for the clutch.
any point in changing water and oil pumps while i'm at it ?
(saying that, i had a water pump loose an impeller on a 21 TS with 98k on the clock)

if i can do that for ?300 i will be a happy chappy (turbo and clutch extra of course)
 
Steve B Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject:

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Swannie21:
what sort of time scale are they doing it in ?

It took them 14 days to get the parts in & get it running.
 
I hope for that money

Swannie21 said:
Mine is being done as we speak. H/G, Head re con, pistons ect ect , the full works top to bottom inc fitting a few mods for me :wink: :D Its being done at my local renault specialist, they are saying its gonna be about ?1200- ?1300 Parts + lab & vat. Well worth it to keep the car on the road imo. I reckon by the time its on the road again i would of spent ?2k on it scince Feb. Wish i had the skillz to do it myself, would of saved me a few ? as most of the cost is in the labour

they are giving you a years guarentee, having said that is that fitted?

si21
 
Re: I hope for that money

si21 said:
Swannie21 said:
Mine is being done as we speak. H/G, Head re con, pistons ect ect , the full works top to bottom inc fitting a few mods for me :wink: :D Its being done at my local renault specialist, they are saying its gonna be about ?1200- ?1300 Parts + lab & vat. Well worth it to keep the car on the road imo. I reckon by the time its on the road again i would of spent ?2k on it scince Feb. Wish i had the skillz to do it myself, would of saved me a few ? as most of the cost is in the labour

they are giving you a years guarantee, having said that is that fitted?

si21
 
If you are rebuilding an engine, then replacing piston rings goes hand in hand with replacing liners, gaskets kits top and bottom, oil pump for sure, mains and big ends but then would it be wise to regrind the crank? Yep. Water pump definately, all belts, head skim, valve regrind, probably get everything dipped to clean all the shite off. New cambelt tensioner, dizzy, rotor and leads, plugs, oil and other consumables. Then add the new turbo, clutch and fly centre bearing, of course a new rad to protect your investment and coolant pipes? dare you risk a full rebuild on old pipes?


WHERE DOES IT END?
 
I agree with Dave here

DaveL485 said:
If you are rebuilding an engine, then replacing piston rings goes hand in hand with replacing liners, gaskets kits top and bottom, oil pump for sure, mains and big ends but then would it be wise to regrind the crank? Yep. Water pump definately, all belts, head skim, valve regrind, probably get everything dipped to clean all the shite off. New cambelt tensioner, dizzy, rotor and leads, plugs, oil and other consumables. Then add the new turbo, clutch and fly centre bearing, of course a new rad to protect your investment and coolant pipes? dare you risk a full rebuild on old pipes?


It's false economy to put a new engine in without making sure the coolant pipes and rad are in first class order.

i know it adds ?500 approx to the build but its protecting your investment in the long run. if one belt breaks one pipe lets go it could kill the time and money already put in.

I was lucky enough to have a couple of mates put my engine box in for me but even so by the time i had put new fluids top end gaskets etc etc the cost soon mounts up by another couple of hundred Squid but then my engine has run faulessly since it has been back in apart from the existing alternator blowing and the heater matrix and an Amal valve the engine itself has not missed a beat :wink:

All i can say is that it was well worth it


and as the quote below states



WHERE DOES IT END?

?3500 later it still has not and i have not painted her yet 8)
 
DaveL485 said:
If you are rebuilding an engine, then replacing piston rings goes hand in hand with replacing liners, gaskets kits top and bottom, oil pump for sure, mains and big ends but then would it be wise to regrind the crank? Yep. Water pump definately, all belts, head skim, valve regrind, probably get everything dipped to clean all the shite off. New cambelt tensioner, dizzy, rotor and leads, plugs, oil and other consumables. Then add the new turbo, clutch and fly centre bearing, of course a new rad to protect your investment and coolant pipes? dare you risk a full rebuild on old pipes?


WHERE DOES IT END?

to be honest dave thats if you want to go all the way, why change the liners, they dont wear that much, and all you do is measure the lip, also if the crank is fine, why have it reground, just measure it and if its within tolerances then its fine, yes defo do oil pump, that is if you can get one now. As for the pipes then yes check them, and replace if needed. Not being rude but your making it out as if its all got to be done. eg rad change. Yes in an ideal world where parts are cheap and money was free then we would change everything. But its not necessary to change it all if not needed. I rebuilt mine, by changing oil pump, rings(liners were fine) big and main bearings, crank didnt need a regrind, new belts and gaskets all round and did a top end rebuild. Cost me just under ?300.
Its not rocket science. Just use your common sense when rebuilding, its true what dave says the more you can renew while building the more chance of total realiability you get, but if on a tight budget, you can do it for around ?300.
cheers craig.
 
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