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Im using a plug in gps speedo module to suit the stack dash. Seems to be accurate.
Cheers just got a dash 2 so might have to see what I can use for that. Was wondering if you had changed hubs or something along them lines to get a speed reading. cheers
 
Renault Extra oil leak saga.

After mapping i noticed a leak on the crankshaft side of the sump. Jacked it up and could see oil running from crank area. So stuck it in the garage and left it for a few weeks.

Had a weeks leave from work booked in so proceeded to drop subframe and take gearbox off, leaving engine in situ to save disturbing too much.

Familiar view in the garage, Extra van in bits


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Engine hoist and jack on the job to hold it in place

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Whipped flywheel off and noticed the crank seal is pretty much dry. As its impossible to accurately trace the leak without removing everything to see it was a chance i had to take.

Tilted the engine and could see the oil seeping out of the half moon sump seal on the crank side of engine. F**k, did not have the parts to fix it at that point and not in the ideal position to be pulling the sump off with the engine on the hoist, decided to stick it back together. I used a combination of black and orange timing seals when building the engine and the orange one is bone dry on timing side.

So with this set back, i levelled the engine to stop oil seeping, brake cleanered the oil up and resealed it. Whilst i was there i fitted a new o.e renault crank seal as it looked like it had a very slight weep.

Found a genuine renault crank seal driver MOT259 on ebay usa so used that to fit the crank seal.

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Turned out to be an epic bit of kit, i hate fitting crank seals as easy to knock them in off square or kink. The tool slides over the end of the crank nose, just lubed it up, knocked it home with the dead blow hammer, super easy.

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Whilst apart i noticed the rear engine mount had split around the welds. Its done 800 miles running in mileage and mapping, hardly used.

Mount is a vibratechnics one. Proper flimsy piece of s**t really, only welded on one side, not cheap and not fit for purpose

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I was highly annoyed over this and feel vibratechnics should have replaced this, however no time to mess about as i needed it back together sharpish.

Popped down my local fabricators and he beefed it up with some 5mm plate and fully welded. He agreed with me, the mount is poorly made.

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Painted up. Glad i discovered it now before it broke and the exhaust falls onto the heater hoses or a shaft snaps.

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With that fixed, stuck it all back together.

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Initially the oil leak was fixed, give it a bit of boost and the leak has reappeared, but not as bad as last time. Its passable for now and can wait until winter, will pull engine out and drop in some steel rods, forged pistons and ductile liners, reseal the sump on the engine stand whilst apart.

Took it for a test drive as not really used it since mapping. Hooks up great with the quaife lsd, its been transformed from a wheelspinning/understeer oldskool turbo setup to point and turn and accelerate.

The engine revs well, really strong up top. Ive been avoiding the rev limiter but accidently clipped the hard cut in 2nd 7600rpm. Shotgun bang lol! Best avoid it as i dont fancy dropping a valve.

Peak recall on the gauges.

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Give it a clean up to remove the bugs and oily hand prints.

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As its not been anywhere took it for a ride down to Santa pod for Retro Show lite last Sunday. Its just reopened for limited spectators if you pre book. Was fairly quiet but good for a ride out, weather held out ok.

440 mile round trip, 044 fuel pump whine and pms shifter rattling but apart from that no issues, and reasonable mpg at cruising speeds.

Pic of it with Tims ph1 Extra van which also has gtt engine and running gear. Good to get out again before summer has gone.

Thanks for reading!

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A couple of the gt lads have had issues with the vibratechnics, i dont think many people have used them as fairly dear. I should have complained about it but wanted to get it back together fast, not fit for purpose.

Must be dead pixels on the stack display 😆
 
Wow that mount is shocking for the money they charge.

How much crankcase ventilation have you got on it matey?

Indeed the mount is dogshit for the money. The rubber on the front mounts is cracked too, piss poor.

Crankcase breather is adequate from what i can see, it has an an10 breather straight from the sump, to rocker cover, to 2ltr catch tank.

Black half moon seal is the issue from what i can see, poor fit. The orange one on the timing end seems ok.
 
Long time no update

Took the Extra to Croft a couple of times last year.

Handling is great with the quaife lsd and can really get on the power especially with the efi conversion and nice smooth mapping. Its hard work to drive compared to modern cars but so much fun.
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After a successful few sessions drove home, obviously repairs needed as its a fecking Renault. With minor issues to sort parked it up last September and with the Kangoo conversion underway didnt touch it at all until a couple of weeks ago. Fired it up after priming the oil system and straight up and running so no dramas in that respect.

Give myself a goal of getting the repairs done and mot'd for Retro Show at Santa pod on 20th of this month. Only needs a driveshaft and rear shocks fitting for mot he says?!

Jacked up and new gaz rear shocks fitted as i had robbed the previous set for the Kangoo.

Gaz vs Leda rear shocks. I had intended fitting the Leda, but there is an issue with the shock body catching the beam as its larger diameter than the gaz/oem. Something to look at another day.
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Jack up one side on the rear and it lifts 3 wheels off the floor. Its crazy how light/stiff it is.
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Fuel system on show.
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I then moved to the front to find out what the issue was with the funny right hand turn in..basically i hit the rh apex at tower corner at Croft and the handling went a bit on the piss and i thought id damaged the outer cv.

Turns out i had blown the seals out of the avo coilover on the o/s and the shock shaft is moving all over the place and oil all over. Track rod end and inner tie rod had play, passenger shock was leaking.

Inner tie rods and outers replaced for trw. Cant argue still on the original van tie rods.
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Emergency shocks fitted, ex @Clarkey cup racer koni yellows with coilover conversion and 275lb springs. Only pic i have is measuring the shocks bolt lol. Set camber at -2deg for road use.
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With that done moved to the engine bay and nothing much needs doing here. Sump is leaking but not heavy.
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Still looking clean enough, a few scabs and battle scars but not too bothered.
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With them few jobs done booked it in for mot and straight through its test. It did reward me with drivers side caliper binding, so stripped and cleaned the pistons up on both sides and they seem to be behaving. Old car issues!

With that resolved took it for a test drive and running well. Still sounds great and feels raw to drive, just something about that oldskool c1j noise.
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Cant wait to take it to Santa Pod this weekend coming.


Thanks for reading!!
 
Santa pod and back done! No issues journey was pretty uneventful apart from the drone of the side exit exhaust/ 044 fuel pump whining away and showing up a golf gti who thought he was clever putting his foot down when i went to overtake 😆

Cleaned up before
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Popped round Jakes on route to pick up some parts so took some pics with his cool ph1 turbo converted extra.

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Currently looking at suspension, the konis occasionally bottom out so no good without raising the rideheight. Ive borrowed a pair of compbrake top mounts to mock up my leda front struts to see if they will go on ok.

Failing that the Avo's can go back on once rebuilt.

Thanks for reading!!
 
Updates

Gathering prep this week

Ledas fitted with compbrake top mounts, 2deg castor, -2.3deg camber and 10 mins of toe dialled in overall20210807_191055.webp20210807_143712.webp20210812_172326.webp
Head retorqued, valve clearances and compression checked. 180psi each cylinder💪
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Loads of road testing done. Parked next to the old 172 Kangoo.20210814_133638.webp
Need to change a breather fitting but apart from that just needs a clean and good to go.

Thanks for reading!
 
Cheers all, proper looking forward to it.

New torques an10 fitting for crankcase breather to replace the last chinese fitting on the car. Pissing oil out of the swivel/o ring part, drop kicked into the bin.20210817_154647.jpg20210817_154703.jpg

Ill repeat again never ever use the chinese no brand fittings, absolutely terrible, no quality control whatsoever.

I only left this one on as it seemed to be dry, and im sure i bought it from a half decent place. Thankfully ive used decent torques fittings for every fuel fitting and no issues.
 
Cheers all, proper looking forward to it.

New torques an10 fitting for crankcase breather to replace the last chinese fitting on the car. Pissing oil out of the swivel/o ring part, drop kicked into the bin.View attachment 157373View attachment 157374

Ill repeat again never ever use the chinese no brand fittings, absolutely terrible, no quality control whatsoever.

I only left this one on as it seemed to be dry, and im sure i bought it from a half decent place. Thankfully ive used decent torques fittings for every fuel fitting and no issues.
Torques are quality. Bought a lot of weld on fittings in the past..
 
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