Clio Big Steve’s Clio Williams 2 (World Cup Williams) 🌍

[Big Steve - Raider]

Id bin that brake kit and run oem sized discs with good pads. The larger discs just add unsprung weight, performance increase is negligible

Ah very good point that sir! I kid myself I'm hard on brakes, but Its just not the case.

Just wondering if Clio 172 Hubs can be fitted to Williams arms (with a bit of modification) then I can get more options for Discs & Pads (I believe)

 

[gordini stu]

I’ll second that
keep it standard decent pads, maybe a quality drill disc , took off some weird and wonderful set ups in my time but always return to standard , lsd in the box is a good shout ,

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

I’ll second that
keep it standard decent pads, maybe a quality drill disc , took off some weird and wonderful set ups in my time but always return to standard…

Hmmm… maybe that’s the way to go then, as you and @Brigsy suggest?

Rather than mess about with bigger brakes and swapping stuff, just stick with the original stuff and get some good quality discs and pads..??

Must admit, when you think about it, the bigger brakes on the Clio 1*2 are there to stop the greater mass of that car..

Thanks chaps.

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

lsd in the box is a good shout ,

Now this one is going to be VERY difficult for me to say no to, as it’s made a massive difference to how my Clio 182 drives and I’ll never forget @Adey saying it’s the most sorted Clio 182 he’s ever driven with the Diff..

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Whipped the Nearside driveshaft out this evening, and everything came out easily enough:


As I’m stripping the car down, I’m keeping my eyes peeled for further signs of rust and saw the offside headlight area looked a bit grotty:

So pulled off the offside wing and was greeted by a lot of rust, but thankfully it’s all just on the surface and passes the old screwdriver poke test!

Would still say this car is in pretty good condition considering it’s age/mileage/history. Nothings scaring me off as yet..!

 

[DaveL485]

Someone asked me to find some of the TXi discs recently (for an actual R21 too), and i'm pretty good at tracking down parts... I only found one set available (which he bought). Here is the parts x-ref, the ones I found were BRECO BS8020.

RENAULT
7700 801 086
7700 801 213
7701 204 299

Delphi BG3149
Jurid 561617J
Ferodo DDF251
LPR R1263V
ATE 421103
Brembo 09.4626.20

A.B.S. 16120
ACDELCO AC2189D
AP 24315
ATE 24.0121-0103.1
24-0121-0103-1-01
421103
BENDIX 561617
561617B
BRADI 1.4020.2.5
BRAKE ENGINEERING 955407
DI955407
BRECO BS 8020
BREMBO 09.4626.20
CAR 142.556
CIFAM 800-352
FERODO DDF198
DDF251
FREMAX BD-4195
GIRLING 6025851
GRAF DF29304
DF29352
HP (ZEBRA) 57749
JURID 561617J
KAGER 37-0485
LUCAS ELECTRICAL DF2585
MAGNETI MARELLI 353614020250
METELLI 23-0352
MGA D1152
MINTEX MDC873
NATIONAL NBD596
NECTO WN507
PAGID 52824
PEX 14.0484
PILENGA V745
QUINTON HAZELL BDC4641
REMSA 6321.10
ROADHOUSE 6321.10
ROULUNDS BRAKING D2189
SBS 1815203957
UNIPART GBD978
VALEO 186222 or 186494

 

[gordini stu]

Now this one is going to be VERY difficult for me to say no to, as it’s made a massive difference to how my Clio 182 drives and I’ll never forget @Adey saying it’s the most sorted Clio 182 he’s ever driven with the Diff..

I had a drive in a 180 bhp Williams with a diff , if your after smiles per mile it’s the way to go

Go chop the front off that shell if it’s really good make a really nice repair

 

[Adey]

Now this one is going to be VERY difficult for me to say no to, as it’s made a massive difference to how my Clio 182 drives and I’ll never forget @Adey saying it’s the most sorted Clio 182 he’s ever driven with the Diff..

after driving yours, and its still my favourite one, id take it over any of mine I've had or any others ive driven. (it'd be awesome with a SC btw)

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Swiped a full set of Ferodo DS2500 pads and front drilled/grooved discs off a chap off Facebook Marketplace for less than half price:

So that’s made the decision for me on what I’m going to do with the braking system.

Plan is to whip the engine and gearbox out tomorrow, will report back

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Plan is to whip the engine and gearbox out tomorrow, will report back

Boshed it out this morning in a few minutes:


Engine looks in fairly good order, albeit a bit greasy & dirty:



Whipped the gearbox off, and was greeted by an unknown clutch:

With plenty of meat on it, but missing a small spring:

Soon got the engine onto the stand:

Engine bay needs some serious loving though



Plenty for me to go at now…

 

[gordini stu]

No messing about , you have definitely let the dog see the rabbit now ,

 

[gordini stu]

Try and find a rust free front end . They unpick really well , take it back to the strut towers . It slots in like and old c90 tape , all welds hidden under sealer , and will look totally original. Just how you like it

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Try and find a rust free front end . They unpick really well , take it back to the strut towers . It slots in like and old c90 tape , all welds hidden under sealer , and will look totally original. Just how you like it

Hmm.. this is a good point.. to be fair the front end isn’t TOO bad overall, the worst is the offside front corner. You can see the rusty hole at the front but the rot’s also galloping up the inner arch also..

Trouble would be finding a rust free replacement panel…

 

[gordini stu]

Do know of diesel , non runner I’ll look into it

 

[Duncan Grier]

Definitely a fun shape to recreat but doable in smaller sections

Doner section def saves a load of time if you can get on

Wish I had cut all the sections out the donor 5 I got cut my windscreen cradle from

 

[Renny 5]

I swear by ferrodo pads!! Ds2500’s for fastroad are very hard to beat!!

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

I swear by ferrodo pads!! Ds2500’s for fastroad are very hard to beat!!

Yeah I’ve got them in my 5 and Clio 182. Expensive, but worth it imho.

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Got directed to a rather fantastic French company who sell all sorts of goodies for MK1 Clio Valver/Williams cars, and even a load of parts to make them Groupe N or A compliant…:

Pièces Clio 16S et Clio Williams (Origine et Compétition) - Boutique Bordanova Sport

Pièces origine et Compétition pour Renault Clio 16S et Clio Williams : Notre expertise à votre service !

www.boutique-bordanova-sport.com

Didn’t take long for me to start putting things into a basket, and my first order arrived today. Although the Taxman took his 20%, I’m still SUPER chuffed with the fact I managed to grab a set of the Bilstein B6 shocks that seem to be no longer be available on their website.. AND they shipped to me in the UK!!

Also picked up:

• Full OE Replica coolant set in the correct black rubber design (no glossy Silicone here)
• New reproduction O/S front arch/bumper splash guard
• 10x heat shield fasteners
• 4 x Spark Plug insulators

#serviceparts

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Switched out the under headlight trims from the headlights supplied with the car (which didn’t have the manual adjustment function) to a new pair I managed to come by.

Always like to use new headlights on my car rebuilds, as it really brightens up the front of the car:

You can see how the new (outer) ones look LOADS brighter

Next I did a little DIY refurbishment of the starter motor heatshield:

With a roll of adhesive backed aluminium:

It doesn’t make it brand new again, but has certainly given it a bit more rigidity and now stopped if fraying any more.

I then whipped the oil sump off:

Thankfully I found no big lumps of metal in the bottom of the sump, so things still looking healthy… (famous last words)

Then I removed the timing covers:


To show an OE Renault Timing Belt fitted that was still in good condition

It was exactly at this point I was reminded why I always take the engines out when I’m doing work like this:

Just look at the state of that lot!!! It’s near impossible to fix this properly when the engine’s in the car… I want to try & make this engine oil-tight

Thanks for stopping by

 

[gordini stu]

Sadly the diesel clio is no more been badly repaired in its younger days , stood for years and as rotten as and old pear , 5 door as well ,
Great work as always love working on these engines , straight forward , and key ways on pulleys .