Chris Smith
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Going for 352hp
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Kangoo Compact (aka Racevan3)
- Thread starter Brigsy
- Start date
Sir jake the brit
Active Member
My hybrid made 348, so 347.7 coz it a warm day
Duncan Grier
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362bhp but turned down after to save clutch 
Brigsy
Media Mogul. Instagram legend.
Just got back had a great day down at Efi and good to catch up @Moggy r26r was epic
Mapping went very well and made more power than anticipated, Chris done a great job and feels ballistic for what it is. Its hard to keep in a straight line in first 3 gears so best start looking at suspension upgrades next! Will do a full update in the morning
Mapping went very well and made more power than anticipated, Chris done a great job and feels ballistic for what it is. Its hard to keep in a straight line in first 3 gears so best start looking at suspension upgrades next! Will do a full update in the morning
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Brigsy
Media Mogul. Instagram legend.
Mapping day yesterday. Had prepared as best as i could and packed a few spares "just incase". Steady drive down to Efi made it there in good time.
Pre checks done, fuelled up and parked waiting to get on the rollers. Moggy arrives for a catch up in his epic nimbus r26r.
Waited for Chris to finish up with another car on the dyno.
Firstly engine ecu was removed to bench read and write a new base map as the ecu was locked from previous map. I fit 250 map sensors and hook up the vac pipe for the rising rate fuel reg on the 250 rail.
Chris fires it up to check the base map, connects the hardware to map via obd. We run into problems at this point as the software does not recognise the Kangoo 2 vin number that is stored on the engine ecu and wont show any ecu data, boost pressure, charge temp, knock count etc.
This was a problem as cant tune it without any data logging. Long and short of it is, when i done the immobiliser sync i changed the engine ecu vin number to the Kangoo one to try and view it on clip (which did not work). The only option was to reload the megane R26 vin number so the software would recognise it, which was a bit of a carry on as the ecu needed to be a virgin immob file and would not write the vin without a bench flash back to virgin.
Luckily i had my laptop with me so found the virgin immob file, bench flashed the chip and resynced the immobiliser with Ren0link. Ecu vin changed and the hardware recognised the vin allowing logging to be done.
Onto the dyno.
Chris asked me what i expected from the setup and what my use will be, i told him i want to drive this hard and track use so can sacrifice a bit of power for safety. He mentioned the 172 cams on stock timing may make the setup a little bit more laggy compared to usual megane, but that could work really well and make more power with less boost than stock 250 cams, and keep the drama out low down in the rpm which is good.
Part throttle mapping first.
Chris starts dialling it in and the power comes up fast and its looking like its working quite well. Safe 300 hp, 350 hp on 2nd run. Intake/Charge temps are really good and the rising rate fuel system is working well.
Wound it up a bit more and see 382hp @23psi
Clutch started to slip a little on spool at this point so had to pull boost up to 4000ish rpm and limit torque.
End result 375hp & 337ft/lb. Made up as i was expecting around 340hp and anything over that was a bonus.
Video of the final run.
Took it for a road test and it feels ballistic for what it is, its hilarious just squats and goes.
Traction is a major issue in first 2 gears and its quite hard to keep straight so chassis needs a bit of work to dial it in and it definitely needs some sticky rubber for track use, and a clutch upgrade very soon.
Massive thanks to Chris @ Efi for epic service as usual, he totally went above and beyond and stayed back late to get it all dialled in and finished after the initial issues with the ecu. Overall it drives fantastic and very pleased with the results.
Thanks for reading!!
Pre checks done, fuelled up and parked waiting to get on the rollers. Moggy arrives for a catch up in his epic nimbus r26r.
Waited for Chris to finish up with another car on the dyno.
Firstly engine ecu was removed to bench read and write a new base map as the ecu was locked from previous map. I fit 250 map sensors and hook up the vac pipe for the rising rate fuel reg on the 250 rail.
Chris fires it up to check the base map, connects the hardware to map via obd. We run into problems at this point as the software does not recognise the Kangoo 2 vin number that is stored on the engine ecu and wont show any ecu data, boost pressure, charge temp, knock count etc.
This was a problem as cant tune it without any data logging. Long and short of it is, when i done the immobiliser sync i changed the engine ecu vin number to the Kangoo one to try and view it on clip (which did not work). The only option was to reload the megane R26 vin number so the software would recognise it, which was a bit of a carry on as the ecu needed to be a virgin immob file and would not write the vin without a bench flash back to virgin.
Luckily i had my laptop with me so found the virgin immob file, bench flashed the chip and resynced the immobiliser with Ren0link. Ecu vin changed and the hardware recognised the vin allowing logging to be done.
Onto the dyno.
Chris asked me what i expected from the setup and what my use will be, i told him i want to drive this hard and track use so can sacrifice a bit of power for safety. He mentioned the 172 cams on stock timing may make the setup a little bit more laggy compared to usual megane, but that could work really well and make more power with less boost than stock 250 cams, and keep the drama out low down in the rpm which is good.
Part throttle mapping first.
Chris starts dialling it in and the power comes up fast and its looking like its working quite well. Safe 300 hp, 350 hp on 2nd run. Intake/Charge temps are really good and the rising rate fuel system is working well.
Wound it up a bit more and see 382hp @23psi
Clutch started to slip a little on spool at this point so had to pull boost up to 4000ish rpm and limit torque.
End result 375hp & 337ft/lb. Made up as i was expecting around 340hp and anything over that was a bonus.
Video of the final run.
Took it for a road test and it feels ballistic for what it is, its hilarious just squats and goes.
Traction is a major issue in first 2 gears and its quite hard to keep straight so chassis needs a bit of work to dial it in and it definitely needs some sticky rubber for track use, and a clutch upgrade very soon.
Massive thanks to Chris @ Efi for epic service as usual, he totally went above and beyond and stayed back late to get it all dialled in and finished after the initial issues with the ecu. Overall it drives fantastic and very pleased with the results.
Thanks for reading!!
Awesome work man, great when the graft pays off and you get more than expected isn't it 
. Chris really is a legend of the tuning world.
Know how you feel with traction and I'm on a chunk less power than you are!
Can't wait to see it at somepoint soon, keep up the good work.
That weird Welsh bloke turned up when you were there too......
. Chris really is a legend of the tuning world.Know how you feel with traction and I'm on a chunk less power than you are!
Can't wait to see it at somepoint soon, keep up the good work.
That weird Welsh bloke turned up when you were there too......
Turbell
Well-Known Member
This is not my territory obvs( I'm more Dibnah than Dyno ....) amazing as the power is, it's the standard of conversion that impresses me most, bearing in mind your work isn't cheque book, name dropping, bespoke blah blah.....it was driven there, issues resolved, mapped , made eye watering power, then driven back
Restoring/rebuilding/ modifying cars is a herculean task , but getting them to actually do what you want, whenever you ask,takes much more effort.
Car... Sorry , Van of the year for me.
Restoring/rebuilding/ modifying cars is a herculean task , but getting them to actually do what you want, whenever you ask,takes much more effort.
Car... Sorry , Van of the year for me.
Chris Smith
Well-Known Member
Excellent result there... Expected nothing less tbf..
Mark_L
Well-Known Member
Excellent results, i'm hoping to look forward to similar with mine once I sort the forged engine as I'm going to a similar set up.
Might not bother with the 197 inlets, what's the difference between the 250 inlet and the 225?
Well done, pleased it's all paid off and can't wait to see it.
Might not bother with the 197 inlets, what's the difference between the 250 inlet and the 225?
Well done, pleased it's all paid off and can't wait to see it.
Brigsy
Media Mogul. Instagram legend.
Cheers all, its turned out to be way better than anticipated, and its epic fun to drive. I guess its comparable to a good meglio in some respects.
Ive reckoned up and power to weight is around 270hp per ton, which is about the same as my Extra van, and i reckon this will give the Extra a run for its money. Its hard to get the power down in first and second due to wheelspin, but third onwards it feels ballistic for what it is. Sounds great too a bit different to the usual meg lump.
@Adey Chris done a fantastic job and went absolutely above and beyond to get it sorted, most tuners would have ushered me out the door with that ecu issue we needed to overcome, and its got a couple of software quirks that needed a bit of thought but he had no problem sorting it. It drives absolutely class and still around 32mpg when not on it, best of both worlds can use it without totally hurting the pocket.
@DaveL485 my next project “x” will smash this power figure from my calcs, but for now its the most powerful thing in the household, makes the blue meg feel pretty tame with 306hp
@Mark_L 250 inlet has longer runners and larger internal diameter compared to 225 inlet. If your using 197 head then id use the one that matches up the best, i believe the 250 one will be better suited, and you can fit the good metal fuel rail. Im not even using the vvt on this as s3000 ecu cant control it, i do wonder what it would be like running a 250 ecu. I believe this is up 15-20hp on the usual 250 lump running stock cams, a bit more lag due to stock timing, but it defo does not need any more low down power.
Ive reckoned up and power to weight is around 270hp per ton, which is about the same as my Extra van, and i reckon this will give the Extra a run for its money. Its hard to get the power down in first and second due to wheelspin, but third onwards it feels ballistic for what it is. Sounds great too a bit different to the usual meg lump.
@Adey Chris done a fantastic job and went absolutely above and beyond to get it sorted, most tuners would have ushered me out the door with that ecu issue we needed to overcome, and its got a couple of software quirks that needed a bit of thought but he had no problem sorting it. It drives absolutely class and still around 32mpg when not on it, best of both worlds can use it without totally hurting the pocket.
@DaveL485 my next project “x” will smash this power figure from my calcs, but for now its the most powerful thing in the household, makes the blue meg feel pretty tame with 306hp
@Mark_L 250 inlet has longer runners and larger internal diameter compared to 225 inlet. If your using 197 head then id use the one that matches up the best, i believe the 250 one will be better suited, and you can fit the good metal fuel rail. Im not even using the vvt on this as s3000 ecu cant control it, i do wonder what it would be like running a 250 ecu. I believe this is up 15-20hp on the usual 250 lump running stock cams, a bit more lag due to stock timing, but it defo does not need any more low down power.
He did the same with me, had some issues on both my part and his. He put the next mapping job back by hours (they were waiting outside) and then turned away some dyno runs that eve too, blokes a legend 
similar power to weight as the Twingo, I make mine around 270/280bhp per tonne also doesn't sound much but its flipping quick in a fwd Renault
similar power to weight as the Twingo, I make mine around 270/280bhp per tonne also
doesn't sound much but its flipping quick in a fwd Renault
