5 GT Turbo EFI - GT Turbo

[Adey]

VIDEOS MAN VIDEOS!

 

[Mark Davis]

LOL isn't that just the generic response from all BMW drivers?

It was total destruction which is why I think the BMW driver was so upset. His new £40k car couldnt cope with my boosted rust bucket. The Golf R driver was more fun, he kept trying and trying to no avail. It was like playing with my food at one point.

 

[Mark Davis]

VIDEOS MAN VIDEOS!

Every time I get into some action I have not got my camera on or with me. When I go out with an hours worth of footage I literally get NO races. Grrrrr !

 

[DaveL485]

It was like playing with my food at one point.

"Racing your car was less interesting than pushing peas around my dinner plate mate..."

 

[Mark Davis]

A few shots that Matt sent me early. Hopefully finished next week.

Not sure if it will clear my strut brace so may have to get one made or find a Devil.

 

[DaveL485]

Lovely!

 

[Mark Davis]

Evening all, I need some advice on fuel system.

Matt is sorting AN6 fittings on my fuel rail and as I was fitting a swirl pot I might as well over haul the hole fuel system. What is the gold standard ? Currently I have old crappy metal pipes running from tank towards front of car and then rubber hose up to fpr and fuel rail. The return is also part metal into rubber fuel hose.

Advice ? Don't mind spending a decent amount. I'd like it done once and to last. I know nothing about various fittings etc. My local car place said he can sort me copper fuel lines if required.

TIA

 

[Andyquadra]

go stainless steel braided teflon all the way, then you can run it through the car. Rubber hose breaths fuel vapor and you will be high as a kite if you run it through the car.

The main cost will probably be the AN fittings

 

[Mark Davis]

go stainless steel braided teflon all the way, then you can run it through the car. Rubber hose breaths fuel vapor and you will be high as a kite if you run it through the car.

The main cost will probably be the AN fittings

How are the actual fittings fitted to the hose itself ? Is this something I can do at home or do I need some kind of tool/specialist to do it ? I don't want fuel leaking obviously.

 

[Andyquadra]

How are the actual fittings fitted to the hose itself ? Is this something I can do at home or do I need some kind of tool/specialist to do it ? I don't want fuel leaking obviously.

Dave did his at home where as I had a friendly hydraulics place that did all the finished ends

 

[Brigsy]

Hard pipe copper or whatever under car with swaged ends and good quality high pressure rubber fuel hose. No need for any expensive braided setup. Keep it outside no idea why anybody would want fuel hose inside on a road car.

 

[andybond]

and SKIMLINK it !

 

[DaveL485]

How are the actual fittings fitted to the hose itself ? Is this something I can do at home or do I need some kind of tool/specialist to do it ? I don't want fuel leaking obviously.

If you want the proper job (and pretty), use the teflon braided line like Andy mentioned. The fittings are teflon specific (you cant use the rubber hose fittings on teflon line and vice versa). What you see in the pics of my system cost me £172 in pipe and AN-fittings, thats not including the tank, pumps or pump holder, or wiring. They are reusable if you stuff one up and have to remove and refit but the olive insert is not so buy spare olives. Removing and refitting the pipe to the tank you can do as many times as you like the only time you need the olive replacement is if you take the fitting off the braided line IYSWIM.

You can do both fitting types at home easily; you need masking tape, a small angle grinder with a 1mm thin cutting disc, a stanley knife and decent quality spanners. I'll talk you through it, once you do one, you'll be "this is piss easy" and away you go. When you get the pumps and swirl pot, you need to mount/position them and plan out your pipe route to determine what fittings you need- Teflon line does NOT bend like rubber pipe so you have to allow for a wide radius for bends and take advantage of the range of fitting angles available (getting the right exit angles from the pump and swirl fittings has a big impact on routing and how much pipe you use). You'll literally need to write a list and then go shopping (and you better bloody skimlink it too )

 

[Mark Davis]

Hard pipe copper or whatever under car with swaged ends and good quality high pressure rubber fuel hose. No need for any expensive braided setup. Keep it outside no idea why anybody would want fuel hose inside on a road car.

It's only as I get fuel surge on anything less that a 1/3 of a tank Jon so need to resolve that somehow and my understanding is a swirl pot is the only way to resolve which would need to be fitted in car. Is there a better solution ?

 

[Mark Davis]

and SKIMLINK it !

Promise.

 

[Mark Davis]

@DaveL485 - is there a reputable shop where I can get various fittings from and teflon hose ? I could go down to Merlin at Coombe but they aren't the most cost effective.

 

[DaveL485]

It's only as I get fuel surge on anything less that a 1/3 of a tank Jon so need to resolve that somehow and my understanding is a swirl pot is the only way to resolve which would need to be fitted in car. Is there a better solution ?

You can still run it outside the car if you're clever about it. If it was me i'd probably sack off the reserve tank and fit it all there. Or fit it all in the boot and run it through the floor and under the car.

 

[Brigsy]

It's only as I get fuel surge on anything less that a 1/3 of a tank Jon so need to resolve that somehow and my understanding is a swirl pot is the only way to resolve which would need to be fitted in car. Is there a better solution ?

Nothing stopping you fitting the swirl pot underneath the car ? Plenty of room where spare wheel was - thats where mine is going in the van. Had a car with a fuel cell/swirl in the boot never again stunk of fuel

 

[DaveL485]

is there a reputable shop where I can get various fittings from and teflon hose

I use the Torques eBay shop. Good quality, good prices, skimlinks, fast delivery. Win-win-win-win. They even do swirl tank kits with integral pumps and stuff that are worth a look, that will save you time and fitting dramas.

Items in Torques U.K store on eBay !

 

[DaveL485]

stunk of fuel

Thats cos you used rubber pipe. I was the same, I upgraded to teflon, smell gone.