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Clio Clio 172 (will this one get a turbo?)
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Sparkysparks
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As you can see the brand is 'turbocharger'
Its just a cheap ebay one. I'll be honest though it seems a good quality so far. It fell apart easily. Threads seem well cut. The shaft has evidence of balancing and spins nicely.
The threads on the compressor housing have cut through into the air flow but if it proves to be a leaky area then I'll silicone or threadlock them in.
Currently waiting for my downpipe flange to be done then I can get it all on.
I got an oil feed that seems to fit. But the hole is tiny. I think I'll open this up to 2mm like the restrictor that came with the turbo.
I've also ordered the efi module and sent the ecu off. So with a bit of luck I can have it on the ground for a warm up by end of week.
Sparkysparks
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Also I'll put it here so I have a reference to bit me in the bum later. I have no intention of running this turbo water cooled. It's not a high spec turbo. My Nissan has had the water pipes disconnected for years. I don't think it's necessary. Especially for short runs with low boost.
Sparkysparks
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1 of 2 things have arrived so I can finish this thing.
I have badgered the exhaust people and said they have 2 weeks as I'll be on holiday. Then I want it back.
If it's done. Then I'll have it all done soon after.
I have also put a deposit on the engine for the tigra. So lots to keep me busy.
First start... again coming in a few weeks.
Cheers
I have badgered the exhaust people and said they have 2 weeks as I'll be on holiday. Then I want it back.
If it's done. Then I'll have it all done soon after.
I have also put a deposit on the engine for the tigra. So lots to keep me busy.
First start... again coming in a few weeks.
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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So after 6 weeks at a local half mile away fabricator. They didn't touch the downpipe
Took it to another a few miles away and he had done it within 24 hrs. That's more like it!
So hopefully very soon I can have it all bolted up. Turbo on. Put the rest together and get it on its wheels again. Then I'll do the module and get it out of the garage for a shake down.
Took it to another a few miles away and he had done it within 24 hrs. That's more like it!
So hopefully very soon I can have it all bolted up. Turbo on. Put the rest together and get it on its wheels again. Then I'll do the module and get it out of the garage for a shake down.
Sparkysparks
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Well that was easy.
Had to route in a boost gauge aswell, so I tee'd that into the fuel reference line.
And securely tied the boost pipe to the crashbar as it was a bit floppy.
All that's left to do now is the ECU module. And tighten up the springy stupid downpipe to cat bit as that's giving me a bit of grief. Not enough to stop me starting though.
Might be a silly question but where am I supposed to adjust boost pressure with this setup? I think that I'll see what it runs and adjust preload on the actuator arm instead of a controller or using reducers.
Cheers
Had to route in a boost gauge aswell, so I tee'd that into the fuel reference line.
And securely tied the boost pipe to the crashbar as it was a bit floppy.
All that's left to do now is the ECU module. And tighten up the springy stupid downpipe to cat bit as that's giving me a bit of grief. Not enough to stop me starting though.
Might be a silly question but where am I supposed to adjust boost pressure with this setup? I think that I'll see what it runs and adjust preload on the actuator arm instead of a controller or using reducers.
Cheers
Duncan Grier
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Good stuff 
What are you going to do for heat sheilding for turbo/exhaust section? Looks like not much room so could be fun
What are you going to do for heat sheilding for turbo/exhaust section? Looks like not much room so could be fun
Sparkysparks
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There is an off the shelf option for this but for now nothing. In reality it's only going to see 20miles around town. If it becomes a real issue then I'll take it all off again and fit something down there. Even if I just cram some heat shield down there and tie it to whatever I can. It is worryingly close to the brake pipes though I agree.Good stuff
What are you going to do for heat sheilding for turbo/exhaust section? Looks like not much room so could be fun
Hopefully get a good go at that wiring today or after work tonight and go for a start and pull it out of the garage for a warm up and check for leaks. Exciting.
I'll also need a solution to air filtration as currently there looks to be no room for anything other than a mesh over the turbo
Sparkysparks
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First start.
Oops.
First start again.
Bit better this time.
Let it warm up a little bit. Checked for leaks.
Oil feed is leaking!
I revved it up to see if I could get some boost on the stands. It doesn't seem to want to. Even if I go through the gears it wong get more than a psi of boost. But I get the chatter like it is doing it. Maybe it's just because it is on the stands and there's no load.
But get that oil feed nipped up and should be good to go.
Cheers
Oops.
First start again.
Bit better this time.
Let it warm up a little bit. Checked for leaks.
Oil feed is leaking!
I revved it up to see if I could get some boost on the stands. It doesn't seem to want to. Even if I go through the gears it wong get more than a psi of boost. But I get the chatter like it is doing it. Maybe it's just because it is on the stands and there's no load.
But get that oil feed nipped up and should be good to go.
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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Oil feed fixed.
Some flexi intake hose ordered so I can put a filter on away from the turbo.
Ordered some hose for an external catch can (the floor) from under the inlet manifold.
Exhaust re hung as my rear mount let it slip out when putting it all together.
And took it out of the garage.
I'd didn't like any load. I put it down to lack of fuel.
So I went and got 5ltr of super and tried again.
It felt a bit better but my drive isnt long enough to see boost. I've got to insure it to take it out to see if all is well. But so far it seems to be.
Cheers
Some flexi intake hose ordered so I can put a filter on away from the turbo.
Ordered some hose for an external catch can (the floor) from under the inlet manifold.
Exhaust re hung as my rear mount let it slip out when putting it all together.
And took it out of the garage.
I'd didn't like any load. I put it down to lack of fuel.
So I went and got 5ltr of super and tried again.
It felt a bit better but my drive isnt long enough to see boost. I've got to insure it to take it out to see if all is well. But so far it seems to be.
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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Took it up the road very briefly. It doesn't like to idle smooth now. Feels like it's missing. Getting p0130 1st o2 sensor code coming up. Possible the first joint is letting air through.
Went for a boost anyway. It felt mega quick! And still stumbled and missed.
Got back to see most of my boost pipes have expanded past their joints. So I'll be wrapping and beading them to make sure they're not going to move again.
But no leaks.
And I'd like to move the brake servonpipe away from the downpipe elbow as it's very close to melting and having no brakes
Cheers
Went for a boost anyway. It felt mega quick! And still stumbled and missed.
Got back to see most of my boost pipes have expanded past their joints. So I'll be wrapping and beading them to make sure they're not going to move again.
But no leaks.
And I'd like to move the brake servonpipe away from the downpipe elbow as it's very close to melting and having no brakes
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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I've had a thought. The downpipe has an o2 hole at the top. It I put my first one in there to test them it would negate an exhaustt leak causing lumpy running right.
Sparkysparks
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Yeah it's got the flashed ECU. Map sensor and efi module in. I took the bumper off yesterday night to check intercooler piping.
Oh dear. I'd slacked there. Left a few clamps loose. And the zip ties I'd had on a couple I wasn't happy with. I beaded a few pipes to stop further slipping out and found some more hose clamps. It's all tight now. So that's out of the equation.
I got an o2 sensor out ready to try to fit. I hope I can route the wiring round as it's not very long.
And sitting cooling down has compromised the servo vacuum. It's melted it a little bit. I'd not trust that now and I'll get a different solution made up for that.
Get it ready for test drive 2
Oh dear. I'd slacked there. Left a few clamps loose. And the zip ties I'd had on a couple I wasn't happy with. I beaded a few pipes to stop further slipping out and found some more hose clamps. It's all tight now. So that's out of the equation.
I got an o2 sensor out ready to try to fit. I hope I can route the wiring round as it's not very long.
And sitting cooling down has compromised the servo vacuum. It's melted it a little bit. I'd not trust that now and I'll get a different solution made up for that.
Get it ready for test drive 2
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Sparkysparks
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Had a re do of the boost gauge. Fpr. And I put in an mbc to turn it where it needs to be.
Put the mbc between the actuator and the signal on the compressor housing. And tees the boost gauge into that. Left the fpr on its own dedicated line to the throttle body signal.
Took off the servo hose from the manifold. But that's almost impossible to get it out of the servo. I think I'll need to jack it up to get a good hand hold round it.
Once it's off I'll make up a new line away from the turbo.
Whilst I'm under there I'll get that o2 sensor wire out of the loom and see if it will reach the downpipe.
Cheers
Put the mbc between the actuator and the signal on the compressor housing. And tees the boost gauge into that. Left the fpr on its own dedicated line to the throttle body signal.
Took off the servo hose from the manifold. But that's almost impossible to get it out of the servo. I think I'll need to jack it up to get a good hand hold round it.
Once it's off I'll make up a new line away from the turbo.
Whilst I'm under there I'll get that o2 sensor wire out of the loom and see if it will reach the downpipe.
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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Changed my mind and put the fpr and boost gauge on the same line.
Left the mbc as it was.
Got that o2 sensor in the elbow and the loom stretched over. Have to run without the rear o2 sensor for now though as it's not long enough for both.
Tried to get a flexible intake done on it but I have failed there. Might just mesh the intake of the turbo for now.
Started it up. Running seems ok. But the throttle response is shocking. If I touch the throttle it wants to die.
If I press it harder it will rev nicely.
Not warmed it up or driven it but that's where I'm at
Left the mbc as it was.
Got that o2 sensor in the elbow and the loom stretched over. Have to run without the rear o2 sensor for now though as it's not long enough for both.
Tried to get a flexible intake done on it but I have failed there. Might just mesh the intake of the turbo for now.
Started it up. Running seems ok. But the throttle response is shocking. If I touch the throttle it wants to die.
If I press it harder it will rev nicely.
Not warmed it up or driven it but that's where I'm at
Sparkysparks
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Agreed on the mbc but it's one I have to hand atm.
So brake booster line made up and re routed. Breather line added off the inlet.
O2 sensor put in elbow
throttle still does nothing till it's planted. In fact it chokes the car a bit.
Trying for boost I get chugging nothing. A tiny bit of spool and then got a large backfire. Nothing showing positive on the gauge.
Something is definitely not correct here.
Injectors all look seated nicely. No fuel leak. Standard pump with meg 225 injectors and the return system working.
I don't know now. Any ideas? I'd like it buttoned up so I can start the next one.
Cheers
So brake booster line made up and re routed. Breather line added off the inlet.
O2 sensor put in elbow
throttle still does nothing till it's planted. In fact it chokes the car a bit.Trying for boost I get chugging nothing. A tiny bit of spool and then got a large backfire. Nothing showing positive on the gauge.
Something is definitely not correct here.
Injectors all look seated nicely. No fuel leak. Standard pump with meg 225 injectors and the return system working.
I don't know now. Any ideas? I'd like it buttoned up so I can start the next one.
Cheers
Sparkysparks
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From cold btw it struggles to keep itself alive also. Untill it's warmed up that throttle doesn't help
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