Clio Big Steve’s Clio Williams 2 (World Cup Williams) 🌍

[tca576]

Hi Steve, great find! Clearly I'm biased but the Williams is one of the most engaging and involving cars ever! I would say deffo a keeper! Glad you plan to use it and enjoy it!! Judging from your other cars I'm sure you will do an excellent job with this Williams! Good on ya! BTW have you looked to see if there is any info/history on the Williams Clio forum?

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Hi Steve, great find! Clearly I'm biased but the Williams is one of the most engaging and involving cars ever! I would say deffo a keeper! Glad you plan to use it and enjoy it!! Judging from your other cars I'm sure you will do an excellent job with this Williams! Good on ya! BTW have you looked to see if there is any info/history on the Williams Clio forum?

Hi @tca576 , thank you very much for your kind words sir, it’s been an it’s I’ve wanted to scratch FOREVER… and I’m so delighted I’ve managed to find a way (and have an amazing wife in @Millie_Bee to let me) do it!!

Yes I’ve been on WilliamsClio a few times, and actually started a thread over there:

RKK

Picked up this little smasher and drove it home when as Argentina were playing France in the World Cup final 2022 in Qatar (18th December 2022 to save you checking) 991899179916 Currently on 127k miles and looking a little sorry for itself in a few places, but nothing that cannot be fixed. Im...

williamsclio.co.uk

But unfortunately the world has not been kind to the Williams Clio forum, it’s dead as unfortunately, everything seems to have been moved over to Facebook for the immediate gratification it provides… at the cost of ever finding anything again.

I’ve (of course ) told the guys to come over here and read this thread, which I’ll keep on like sonic!

 

[DaveL485]

Williams Clio forum, it’s dead

Paging the data hoover, paging the data hoover, @andybond

 

[andybond]

Paging the data hoover, paging the data hoover, @andybond

Already with @Big Steve - Raider

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Found a few more pictures of my mum’s original Clio Valver back in the day she bought new:




Can see a chance to recreate this photo with my Raider and Williams sometime this summer..??

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

The history of this car keeps coming out of the woodwork, and I’m loving the journey!!

Adam, The Renault Tech from St Helens came on here and saw my thread earlier in the week and saw my conversation with the super chatty seller of K60 FRY on eBay and sent me a message with a few pictures:

Hi steve, just been catching up on the forum and seen that you’d been trying to track down some info regarding K60 FRY. I have a bit of info but not a lot. I followed the EBay advert myself and noticed the guy selling it has the username “gaztwo”. The guy I bought the car from was called Gareth, and if I remember right, he put the car back from K60 FRY to M225 RKK. So I’m somewhat guessing, but I think that could be the same person, and he’s relatively local to me. I actually managed to find the owner of the car while it was registered as K60 FRY about a year and a half ago. His name is Max Derry. I tried messaging him on Facebook but he never replied. I did manage to find his friend who was able to supply me with a couple of pictures which may interest you. His name was James Becke. So if you’re after any more info, I’d try get hold of one of those people…



And MOST IMPORTANTLY, sent me a picture of the engine bay:


So I can now see how the engine bay looked following the Hill Power engine work that was done, and I can also see the reason for the holes in the strut towers, a Sparco Strut Brace.

RIGHT after I bought the car, I had a punt on a strut brace that was advertised on eBay that looked like it might be the right one:


Well bugger my old boots!!! Looks like I’ve lucked out with that strut brace now

BUT… Flippin YODEL appear to have lost the parcel in transit Fingers crossed they can find it..

Back to the engine, the valve cover isn’t blue anymore, but it does look as though it’s had some work polishing it up… so I’m guessing somewhere along the ownership, someone stripped the blue paint off, to return it to somewhat standard??

Going to have a couple of days on it this weekend and do a couple of bits & pieces. Will report back.

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Got out there for a couple of hours this afternoon as still getting over a nice Christmas dose of man flu

Wanted to see if I could get a couple of the trim pieces sitting on the car a little better. The door upper seal was the first one to look at, it had a bad case of the baggies on the leading edge:

Gently prised it all off with the plastic trim levers, and saw that the mechanical fixing posts are all there, the issue was a combination of broken fastenings and the seal actually rusting under the rubber skin:


Bought a couple of bags of clips off eBay:

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And worked with them to fenagle the seal back on making it all look a lot better for itself with an added dollop of tiger seal where it was beyond repair:


Next up was the roof gutter moulding that was lifting near the drivers door.

Again that came out ok:


And again I ordered a bag of clips off eBay in preparation:

Pardon our interruption...

Then it was a case of fitting the new clips:

And bobbing it back on:

Looking a LOT better for itself already..!

 

[Chris Smith]

See a fair few swirls in the paintwork….. let me know when you want me to pop up and give it a once over

 

[Duncan Grier]

If you're all the way over this way @Chris Smith welcome to pop in and say hello also. Happily pay you to give boss car a full valet if you wanted also

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

See a fair few swirls in the paintwork….. let me know when you want me to pop up and give it a once over

Oh wow!! GREAT idea @Chris Smith, and be a great bit of content for the club!!

It’s a proper SWIRL fest mate!

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

If you're all the way over this way @Chris Smith welcome to pop in and say hello also. Happily pay you to give boss car a full valet if you wanted also

Still waiting for my invite over….

 

[Duncan Grier]

You must pop over when the weather gets better, can stick the bbq on

 

[Chris Smith]

Oh wow!! GREAT idea @Chris Smith, and be a great bit of content for the club!!

It’s a proper SWIRL fest mate!

I have my operation in a few weeks, should be back on the machines come mid February, will happily have a weekend up your way and have some fun

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

I have my operation in a few weeks, should be back on the machines come mid February, will happily have a weekend up your way and have some fun

We’ve got the room to host a few bodies for a little TR club meet…??

 

[Spooky]

Did someone say bbq...

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

This Clio suffers from the usual Renault dropped door syndrome, and does a proper little SAG when you open it off the latch. No-way on this earth I’d live with this, so took a big boy pill this morning and made a start.

Ordered a couple of sets of new hinge pins off old CGB Bob from eBay:

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I know these TORX headed hinge pins well enough now to know that they come off a lot better with a bit of assistance with a couple of Ugga Dugga’s from an impact driver and less chance of the head rounding off. Well this time it helped, but i managed to shear off one pin off just under the head, and another just before it entered the second portion of the hinge.

So it was back to medieval ways, with the lump hammer and punch:

And after a fair amount of beating l, and Heating (gas torch), it started to play ball:

I managed to remove the door:

With the door off, I drilled out the old bushes, and knocked out anything remaining:


New bushes slipped in a treat and with the new pins, will have that door tightened up no end:

When the door was on the table, I managed to get the remaining bottom hinge pin out after some more hammering and heating :



But the top hinge pin is just NOT playing ball:

After a few whacks and some it’s just bent the hinge mounting:

So that’s where I stopped today, before I got the hump, with the door off, but quite far from going back on…

 

[Brigsy]

Them pins are a nightmare. Mine were seized solid on the Extra van, and before i knew about it/ rectified it, the stress had cracked the doorskin around the hinge.

I would straighten the hinge out and drill the remains out carefully until it taps out.

 

[gordini stu]

I could be wrong but I think you could get bolt on door hinges from Reno , done a lot of salvage mk1 Clio’s Came as a repair kit ,
Just headlights and taillights. Headlining for sunroof model a wing for a standard model, thought I had a rad but it’s from a 1.8 rt , a wall of fame of bent Conrods out of flood damaged diesels ,
The electrical connections on the Inner wing could be troublesome , loom rubs through on the top of the engine sometimes, Loved this shape clio especially the Williams and 16v had virtually every model at some point . Fell in love with the maxi kitted one in the summertime at Mallory
Quite a collection you have now

 

[Turbell]

Slit down the length of the hinge with a hacksaw, Dremel/whathaveyou, knock a screwdriver blade in, drift the pin out, grind the cut part of the hinge back a few mm, file a V in the cut, build up up with weld and shape it back, ream any weld out of the hole.
We made a tool to press them out of GTA doors, but it broke , many times....ended up version IV.....

 

[Big Steve - Raider]

Thanks for the comments chaps..

I would straighten the hinge out and drill the remains out carefully until it taps out.

Yeah think this is what I’m going to have a go at doing this weekend. If that don’t work, then plan b I suppose is:

Slit down the length of the hinge with a hacksaw, Dremel/whathaveyou, knock a screwdriver blade in, drift the pin out, grind the cut part of the hinge back a few mm, file a V in the cut, build up up with weld and shape it back, ream any weld out of the hole.
We made a tool to press them out of GTA doors, but it broke , many times....ended up version IV.....

But I’m no welder of that ability… I’d have to tap my new neighbour up, who does it for work, so sure he could sort it.

The bottom of the door is also looking a touch grotty, so it’s going to need some loving at some point.

Really surprised to see the hinge pin stuck fast in like that! Never experienced them getting rusted solid like this before!?