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Other ( non Renault ) B18FT flywheel question
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DaveL485
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Why would you need to use anyhting other than the B18 flywheel? (for context)
jamesc
Well-Known Member
Don't judge meeee....I have a Volvo 480
It's an auto & I want to do a manual conversion on it. I guess I could pull the bits from a breakers but thought I would see if there was some lightened flywheels available that would go on.....I might use that Adaptronic kit also, just while the T2 is out of action
DaveL485
Staff member
A cursory google of the Volvo flywheel suggests that even if the flywheel bolts fit and line up timing trigger wise, the clutch cover bolt patterns are different anyway.
For the benefit you would get from doing this, I would forget it. Too much hassle.
jamesc
Well-Known Member
A cursory google of the Volvo flywheel suggests that even if the flywheel bolts fit and line up timing trigger wise, the clutch cover bolt patterns are different anyway.
For the benefit you would get from doing this, I would forget it. Too much hassle.
You are probably right matey but it wasn't so much the benefit I would get out of rather the hassle of sourcing a standard B18 wheel. I thought I may as well get a decent flywheel & clutch to go on. AFAIK the car has a 60-2 pattern, although it has just had an engine swap (like for like although the replacement engine was from a '92 440)
DaveL485
Staff member
@James5 might have one from the B18 he took out of the rear engine rwd 5 that ended up with @Duncan Grier
jamesc
Well-Known Member
I did a search before posting & that car came up, nice! I'll give James5 a shout...thanks
James5
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That B18ft engine I gave away for parts as I had a local friend whom bent a rod in his R5 GTT B18ft conversion so I gave it to him for donor parts.
No B18ft flywheels but the early B18ft models are 200mm and use same crank bolt fitment as the F7p 200mm to which I have 2 x flywheels spare
you can then use the Volvo clutch, F7p clutch or GTT clutch which at the end of the day the valeo green box is a Volvo clutch The later model B18ft's use the 215mm flywheel to which I have a 182 / F4r 215mm flywheel that will also fit the b18ft, f7p engines (I use the F4r one on my F7pt setup) if your going standalone the F4r is 60-2 flywheel pattern and allow wasted spark and std sensor setup.
But saying that the Adaptronic will allow you to run the b18 or F7p 200mm flywheel with dizzy cap but not wasted setup. (Now I say the above I think it's only the newer select range of ECU's that will run on the original 200mm fly with the 40-2-2 fly pattern).
The downside to posting a flywheel is the weight of them pretty heavy. (I am hoping to be at pod on Saturday if you are there I can bring with)
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jamesc
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That B18ft engine I gave away for parts as I had a local friend whom bent a rod in his R5 GTT B18ft conversion so I gave it to him for donor parts.
No B18ft flywheels but the early B18ft models are 200mm and use same crank bolt fitment as the F7p 200mm to which I have 2 x flywheels spare
The later model B18ft's use the 215mm flywheel to which I have a 182 / F4r 215mm flywheel that will also fit the b18ft, f7p engines (I use the F4r one on my F7pt setup) if your going standalone the F4r is 60-2 flywheel pattern and allow wasted spark and std sensor setup.
But saying that the Adaptronic will allow you to run the b18 or F7p 200mm flywheel with dizzy cap but not wasted setup. (Now I say the above I think it's only the newer select range of ECU's that will run on the original 200mm fly with the 40-2-2 fly pattern).
The downside to posting a flywheel is the weight of them pretty heavy. (I am hoping to be at pod on Saturday if you are there I can bring with)
Cheers fella some good info there. Looking on the 480 forum the later B18FT flywheel is 215 mm & is 60-2 pattern as you say
I'll check with Scoff but the Adaptronic I have is a recent one so maybe the F4R set up is what I am looking for. Wasted spark was the plan also
James5
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Scoffs website does have the answer for those with the 200mm fly's that the 420d select models and above can use the std 40-2-2 flys
http://www.efi-parts.co.uk/index.php?productID=276
http://www.efi-parts.co.uk/index.php?productID=276
jamesc
Well-Known Member
exactly mate that was the plan for at least 1 car
That is the kit I have, so seems to say that a trigger wheel is only needed for a wasted spark set up for a 44 tooth flywheel.
5GTT, early 480's (?) = 44 tooth
Later 480's, F4R = 60 tooth
Next step is to see if it all bolts up & get a clutch that fits.....oh and a gearbox, although that should be arriving today
DaveL485
Staff member
yes the ECU will happily work on a 60-2.
James5
Well-Known Member
Agree, I am using an F4r fly on my F7pt and am using the 440 select basically the same as the 420d
jamesc
Well-Known Member
Cheers dude, Scoff confirmed the same
Just need to know whether it will physically fit & with what clutch as flagged up above
Valeo clutch kit for the 172 is 801985 then 826558 for the 182, also 215 mm. Valeo 215 mm for the 480 is 801307....just for my reference later
Nick Kettle
Active Member
I might have a 60 tooth B18ft flywheel spare the garage. I have got a clio 172 helix organic clutch on mine and works fine.
jamesc
Well-Known Member
Great info Nick thanks very much. If you are interested in selling the flywheel on, gis a shout pls
Nick Kettle
Active Member
I'll have a look tomorrow for you. i'm sure the flywheel is still on the old f*cked engine as i put the turbo pistons in a n/a block and used the n/a cam too in the original turbo head. its got the n/a throttle body too as its bigger. ( SE ) it think it was... Higher lift on the cam.
jamesc
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Thanks fella. Yes they have higher lift on the cam, but also more overlap apparently. I don't know if that is a problem I never go around to fitting one
