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Chris H
master of boobies
Renix is just renamed Fenix. Is it injection? if so then live data will stream from it just liek the big talk in gen chat about the usb thing.
pinout data
Pin
Number Pin
Name Description (may be empty)
1 K-Line Automatic transmission diagnostic (AD4)
2 GND
6 +12V Accumulator
7 K-Line Automatic transmission diagnostic (M)
8 L-Line Engine diagnostic (Siemens/Bendix/Renix SPI/MPI)
9 K-Line Engine diagnostic (Siemens/Bendix/Renix SPI/MPI)
10 L-Line Engine diagnostic (Fenix 5, Magneti Marelli 06R, Motronic M4.4.2)
11 K-Line Engine diagnostic (Fenix 5, Magneti Marelli 06R, Motronic M4.4.2), ABS, Airbag
pinout data
Pin
Number Pin
Name Description (may be empty)
1 K-Line Automatic transmission diagnostic (AD4)
2 GND
6 +12V Accumulator
7 K-Line Automatic transmission diagnostic (M)
8 L-Line Engine diagnostic (Siemens/Bendix/Renix SPI/MPI)
9 K-Line Engine diagnostic (Siemens/Bendix/Renix SPI/MPI)
10 L-Line Engine diagnostic (Fenix 5, Magneti Marelli 06R, Motronic M4.4.2)
11 K-Line Engine diagnostic (Fenix 5, Magneti Marelli 06R, Motronic M4.4.2), ABS, Airbag
Chris,
I'd read through that thread back in February then forgotten about it.
I didn't realise it had progressed so far! Thanks for the info BTW. I'm going to have to go look at how different it is to mine. I have a pair of diagnostic plugs under the bonnet next to each other...
Yes, it is injection. I'll have to start poking about with the multimeter to find out where everything goes, because the plug on mine has a big bunch of feeds directly from sensors and other places (coil lead etc) so that's why I wasn't sure if it had any serial data available
--Phil
I'd read through that thread back in February then forgotten about it.
I didn't realise it had progressed so far! Thanks for the info BTW. I'm going to have to go look at how different it is to mine. I have a pair of diagnostic plugs under the bonnet next to each other...
Yes, it is injection. I'll have to start poking about with the multimeter to find out where everything goes, because the plug on mine has a big bunch of feeds directly from sensors and other places (coil lead etc) so that's why I wasn't sure if it had any serial data available
--Phil
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Chris:
That's the diagnostics plugs in my engine bay, as they are attached to the bracket. B is to the front of the car.
This is what I was able to gauge probing all the plugs in the engine bay:
A
1 ?
2 58 ohms to ground
3 Ground Bat-
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
7 ?
8 ?
9 ?
10 ?
11 ?
12 ?
13 N/C
14 N/C
15 ?
B
1 Ground Bat -
2 5 ohms to ground
3 Coil A / Lambda A (yellow)
4 Bat +
5 Coil C (green/white stripe)
6 ?
--Phil
That's the diagnostics plugs in my engine bay, as they are attached to the bracket. B is to the front of the car.
This is what I was able to gauge probing all the plugs in the engine bay:
A
1 ?
2 58 ohms to ground
3 Ground Bat-
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
7 ?
8 ?
9 ?
10 ?
11 ?
12 ?
13 N/C
14 N/C
15 ?
B
1 Ground Bat -
2 5 ohms to ground
3 Coil A / Lambda A (yellow)
4 Bat +
5 Coil C (green/white stripe)
6 ?
--Phil
tracklogic
Membre
Just thinking about this... arent American cars more strict on the diagnostic info (i.e. they provide more information) for like the annual SMOG testing etc... Not sure if Renault would have had to changed something to allow for these different tests - is this why youve got a different connector layout to the 12-pin connector I've seen over here on R19s etc..?
tracklogic
Membre
This makes me think it would be interesting to have a play with an american fenix/renix ECU, i wonder if the output data stream is longer... certainly the R19 data stream has no mention of ltf or stf values
tracklogic
Membre
Ah i'm not sure what car Phil is referring too... i was under the impression they had 19s or something over there with the diagnostic connector he pictured above! Aye can definitely get more data through OBDII had a play with that on Volkies got a USB adapter kicking about somewhere.
Chris, 1987 GTA (R9) 2.0
Might well be different (it's designed to run on 89R+M / 91RON petrol and has a different head design to its European counterparts), but being pre-OBDII nowhere here has plugins for it for annual testing.
The smog laws did mean it's only certified 49-state, can't get a tag for California (That's why the 1.4 was multi-point injection) but here, the age of it the testers pass it if it can actually get to the test station...
Mine appears to read from the following: engine coolant temp, intake manifold temp, knock sensor, oxygen sensor, throttle position, manifold absolute pressure, crank position.
Genuine AMC test sets are thin on the ground and expensive now on ebay so depending on cost, you might have a winner here, the GTA has a small cult following, similar to the 5 and 19 there.
--Phil
Might well be different (it's designed to run on 89R+M / 91RON petrol and has a different head design to its European counterparts), but being pre-OBDII nowhere here has plugins for it for annual testing.
The smog laws did mean it's only certified 49-state, can't get a tag for California (That's why the 1.4 was multi-point injection) but here, the age of it the testers pass it if it can actually get to the test station...
Mine appears to read from the following: engine coolant temp, intake manifold temp, knock sensor, oxygen sensor, throttle position, manifold absolute pressure, crank position.
Genuine AMC test sets are thin on the ground and expensive now on ebay so depending on cost, you might have a winner here, the GTA has a small cult following, similar to the 5 and 19 there.
--Phil
