Kangoo Powered By Vauxhall C20XE R6 Carburettors (Pic Heavy)

[Joker]

Seen as though I have some spare time on my hands I figured a thread was in order to show the progress of the build I recently started. Once the xe is built and ready I shall be transplanting it into a renault kangoo van which I have just bought for cheap.

I've got a spare XE Block an Head and various other spare parts which have been lying around for sometime now and thought it was time to put them too use. I recently bought a set of R6 Carbs and an inlet manifold and pretty much everything I needed to get them up and running.

I'ts a slow project but am aiming for it to be ready for when the shows come around next year.

Here are some pictures of the carbs and manifold I bought.





I think these little babies should sound pretty damn sweet when up and running.

I shall update the thread if and when I get more pics and more progress. :nod:

I've never played around with carbs so it's all new to me but have followed a few tips from a few people that have done it before. It should be one nippy little van, Although fuel consumption won't be the best It Should Sound wicked!

Here are some more pics that I had taken today at work with a crappy camera (poor quality)

The head before its clean.



I Sprayed my pulleys just to give them some colour, nothing special but better than the rust colour lol



I've cleaned the block up and put the bearings in ready for the crank and cleaned my pistons, got them up nicely.









Hydraulic lifters in soak and some bolts for the sump



Advancable Dizzy



Clean sump



Clean Oil pipe



New head gasket set and head bolts.



Coil



Flywheel



R6 Fuel pump



And here are the carbs with the inlet on





Crank



Powder coated rocker cover



Breather for rocker cover



I couldn't resist and take some pics with the rocker cover and carbs on the head.







Quick picture of the block before I paint it tomorrow



Some more pics of painting - Not alot done but impressed after my first coat once I'd applied some more it looks OK.

Painted my pulleys and thermostat housing.






Dipstick painted


Few pictures of the block after its painted














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Update:

Got the van delivered last week and finally got a chance today to strip the engine out, It really needs a good clean out I think the previous owner was a Plasterer or something, Mega dirty inside but nothing I can't sort out!

Ok So here's the van....







Just removed the bonnet and most of the bits out the way before the engines out.





And.........IT'S OUT!!





Here's the nice little engine bay, I've taken some measurements and it looks to be very tight but should be do able! - Only thing that concerns me is I think the alternator is going to interfere with the servo and resovoir.

Before Jet wash.



After Jet wash.



Nice and clean

That's all I've really done for now, Time is very limited as I'm busy working but should be able to finish off building my engine in the next few weeks and hopefully crack on before xmas with this.

Small update.

Had another spare day this weekend so had a go at lining the engine up, Just a couple of pics showing some clearance issues. I removed the insides to make it lighter so its easier to handle and used a bare block just for mounting points.

I need to strengthen the chassic legs up both sides and make some mounts up. Everything is very close but should be OK





The head has to be this far forward to allow for carb clearance.





The engine position was very low here, This isn't were its going to be mounted its about 2 inches higher picture was just for test.

The subframe is going to be cut and moved forward to allow room for the exhaust manifold.



This is what the inside of the van looked like before I Cleaned it.



After a wipe down and a bit of a scrub. The seats are pretty much wrecked the picture doesn't look like much but its a damn site better than it was before.



Once the mounts are all made and in, the engine will be put together as its sitting in bits in the unit at work as there's no point putting it all together yet as I don't want to damage it in transit to were the van is at home. The gear linkage might be an issue but I'll figure that out when I come to it. Alternator and radiator will need to be repositioned. I think it should go well!

I'm going to be using a Citroen Saxo Power steering pump and re position the alternator to the front of the block.

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Another UPDATE:

The block and gearbox I was using to get my positions are all lined up and have the mounts welded in place now so the engine is mounted! Woo hoo! I will take some pictures at the weekend when I Get chance. I'm also using the digi-dash from the old astra gte in the van which will look super old skool.

Comments welcome!

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I'll show you how I've done the digidash it looks good! I'm impressed.



Paper cut out to make template

test with out indicators and lights showing




I've half covered this one with black pen to darken it but the pen ran out haha. This is just a prototype but putting it behind the kangoo dash it looks very funky!


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I've cut out all the excess metal that I don't need and have painted my engine block but removed all the paint as it looked crap so here's a couple of pics, sorry for the slow progress.

I sprayed the dashboard black as it was all dirty and horrible and also painted the whole inside of the floor black just to make it match.















dash back in the van all done.





waiting for a new boss for my new steering wheel.



here are some of the mountings i've made for the engine.



will be using this mount for the gearbox side.



testing a different set of rims on the beast



and finally a test mock up with the bottom end gear box, head and carbs!











here's my other gearbox i'm going to be using, the f16 all painted up looking fresh!



Once I was happy with the engine position I removed it all again and started to key / filler / primer the engine bay.

my filler work isn't the best but its good enough for me.























Thats all I've got to so far but hopefully will get some more updates soon.

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Got all my rebuild bits today for my engine so the building will commence on my freshly build c20xe engine

engine bay is all painted up and ready to accept the engine, Waiting for power steering connectors and new brake pipes for me to bend and look pretty

Coming along nicely now!

Painted all me bits to make them look better.

Power steering pump electric.


Rack painted


I polished the wing up just to give it some life as it's gathered quiet a lot of dust!


Engine bay painted.





OK I received my big box of goodies for the engine rebuild this week so once the block is back from my local engineering place I shall be getting it all built up and together.



UPDATE!!

update on the kangoo

Got it all built this weekend and got some ramp time to have a good look under the van and clean any bits of rust I can see.

Here's the engine with painted sump



Van on the ramp





painted master cylinder



Pic of the custom mounts I made





The vauxhall gear selector I have made to fit



Heres the build nearly finished, It's a completely rebuild new engine bar the pistons and block which I had honed





Head all cleaned up



Head on engine and torqued down





Still waiting on some little bits before cambelt can go on then its ready to be fitted!

All ready to go.

Couple of pics of engine complete before fitting on saturday











Enjoy


***UPDATE***

Ok so today I had a morning free so decided it was time for the engine to meet the bay!

I had to make some brake pipes up and put the unions on before filling the engine bay with the lump so once done I cracked on with putting the flywheel and clutch on then bolted the box on and got the engine crane out to lift it all in. Engine went in OK but at this point I realised how much work was involved in this conversion! Once the engine and box went in I had to take it straight out scratching the paint work on both the box / engine and the chassis! After a bit of head scratching I got the grinder out and had to remove some chassis leg!

Here's the N/S leg



and the O/S leg



OK so the engine now fits fine but need to plate the chassic leg off and strengthen it!





This side fits, but still need to remove more leg to allow for the single v pulley to fit for the alternator!





some pics from above!!







I had to make a custom Gearbox mount and this is what it looks like.



Once the engine was in i realised the exhaust needed modifying but cant do that yet as I need to heat it up and bend it and add some flexi to pass through the steering rack and modified bar I added for the rear engine mount.

This is what it looks like



And the last few shots before I went home after calling it a day!





I'm happy with how it looks but there is still plenty of work to do before its finished!


Quick update

Had to cut quiet a considerable amount away from the O/S chassis leg which Is quiet worrying but I'm going to be strengthening the whole bay with some steel tubing and strut braces as I can't see it lasting all that long like that. Here are some pics of the plated off bits anyway and engine back in.

O/S cut out and plated





N/S cut out and plated





Still close but will be fine now.



Re shaped my O/S mount as it was abit boring lol



Here's the O/S with engine and pulley on, It clears now but I need to strengthen it up more. Anyone got any ideas of how I could strengthen the legs up more?





Enjoy

 

[blaze]

That looks like a LOT of work and a strange old combination fella.

Far in excess of my capabilities and very impressive.

Will watch with baited breath.

 

[Joker]

well the combination came from me having the xe engine spare and using the renault kangoo van was purely based on cheapness, I bought it dirt cheap and its the perfect candidate for more horses! Besides it will be a one of a kind as I've not seen any kangoo van with heavy mods such as engine transplants. I was almost tempted to buy a 4x4 trekka and get the 4x4 motion going with the turbo c20let engine haha imagine that!

To be honest its not all that much work, the hardest bit of it all will be getting the gear linkage working correctly, the rest is fairly straight forward. More updates will be up over the weekend.

Joe

 

[jay]

go on me old china, another modder mwaaaaaaah :lol::lol:

 

[f2 clio]

should make a good sleeper.i like it, you having much problems getting drives to fit.

 

[Joker]

Haven't got to them yet, The plan is to use the standard kangoo hubs and half kangoo shaft welded to half vauxhall 22spline shaft for f20 vox gearbox.

I know a place in cov that welds/balances drive shafts. So one vaux shaft and 2 kangoo ones should see me with power to the wheels. Still quiet abit of work to do yet to make it look tidy the weather is holding me back as garage is full so its outside jobby and I hate the cold weather haha.

I'm after a set of 15" steel rims from a renault near mint condition just the rims if anyone has any let me know.

 

[f2 clio]

good luck welding the shafts . sleved and welded cav. drives for my xe tigra lasted about 300 yards had to use LMF shafts no bother since.

 

[tattyoldvan]

nice to see someone else doing a kangoo. i must admit i was tempted by this van for the rear doors alone. I've got my f7p in the van now, and it runs and drives lovely. Its amazing how much more room you have at the gearbox end. i assume its an f20 box. suspect will be more reliable than the renault bits i'm using.
think using vauxhall bits in a kangoo is fair enough plenty of renault vauxhall tie ups over the years

 

[Joker]

what do you mean mate, im not 2 familiar with the renault engines, is that a 1.8 engine?

Van should be quick, do you have any pictures of yours and what do you mean the rear doors? lol sorry bit confused there lad.

I'm putting digidash into my van over the weekend, don't suppose anyone has a wiring diagram for the kangoo van? I can't seem to find one anywhere.

 

[Ads 19]

few pics of mine in the general chat section!
your doors are glazed, mine aren't.
I found my engine was tight on the servo and the resevoir, should have really changed it to a R5 item.
You'll not get any help on the wiring diagram, well i havent yet. The reds from the fuse box are the permenant live, the white is the starter, and yellows are ignition. as for revcounter, temp oil and reverse i'm still yet to find them. no idea as to what the vauxhall lump loom colours are though, though you have less issues do deal with as no injection and ecu to worry about. you'll be pretty much running a vauxhall loom in adition to the kangoo one so long as you chase out enough for your dials etc you should have same coloured wires to match up. I like the idea of a digi dash in a kangoo, wonder if i could make one work with the renault lump seen them in 21 turbos before. couldn't you have got a combo instead??

 

[Joker]

yes mate but this came up cheap and I thought why not its a challenge! I don't have any loom really mate, There's no leccy windows in mine, I've cut the fusebox and everything out as its not needed. Just a couple of relays for the lights and thats it really, I need a rev counter wire and fuel pump but thats already their so its even easier. What do you mean glazed matey?

 

[tattyoldvan]

if you liven up the 2 reds going into the van all the car loom will work fine, your rear doors have glass, mine are all steel.
I think kangoos will be getting few more transplants just as they are so cheap and normally with blown engines or boxes, and they rust less than most small vans.
I've got competition round here as it is, a hot berlingo and a connect rst in area.
We are a bit slow it appears to exploit the kangoo, it was discussed a few times before i happened apon a cheap one, there is definately a waft of cheap ones at moment making it more viable.
But there are a few in France, I think i'd like to try get a look at a 182 lump and loom and see if it could be neater than f7p, but then again your xe looks neater fit.
Get yours done for POD amd we'll have to have a kangoo duel.
I'm pretty convinced mine will be far slower as decided the 130ish bhp is more than enough for the kangoos stoppers atm!

 

[Joker]

HAHA yes mate, this will definately be done for may. I go to Performance Vauxhall every year and a few other shows so your on! Kangoo Duel! sounds like a good crack m8. Yes they are the cheapest of all vans you can buy so i've seen, You can pick up corsa vans the old ones but there dog plop to be honest I wanted something a bit more "vanny" there just a corsa with a box on the back lol.

As for engine looking neat, Wait til tomorrow I'm going to be fitting the head and carbs to get a test idea of what the bay should Look like and to make sure clearance is sufficient. I see what you mean about glass windows I'd prefure steal ones tbh because I don't want people being nosey at my stuff inside!. How is yours for speed mate is it good? have you uprated your suspension at all I'm trying to work out what suspension will fit.

 

[tattyoldvan]

not yet, going to mot it as is before worrying about the suspension.
No idea pf speed yet as have no speedo, its running a clio box, so i recon clio -10% for the increased drag.

I think will use the standard kango struts and convert them to coilovers as they seem to be pretty well damped, unless i bag some cheap clio 172 uprights and hubs in future, rear just drop the torsionbars, although kangoos are known to snapping so bit aprehensive of doing that myself!.
shame my doors are a different colour or i'd see a swap on the cards!

 

[Joker]

you reckon the van weights more than a clio? - How would you convert the struts to coil overs mate.

I'll be lowering mine at some point.

 

[tattyoldvan]

you can by the threaded inserts, and rings and then just springs to match. cut off the spring platforms from standard struts. drop the insert over the top. bit of careful welding and you have converted your struts to coilovers.
Not a lot in it weight wise but its a lot taller.

 

[Joker]

Little update.

Decided not to use the digi-dash after all the messing about I did, Shame because it looks cool! But there's just way to much wiring on the renault side of the wiring to get my dash working so Just gunna leave the standard dash in for now.

 

[tattyoldvan]

any progress yet??

 

[Joker]

update

alrite mate, progress is slow but I have some pictures to show as I've been busy moving house recently and having to sell my other car and stuff so here's what i've done so far......

 

[Larry]

this is becomeing very very awesome very very quick