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already on when i got them, to be honest i had the same issue on my leon, and i fitted an bedded in the pads myself correctly on that. Maybe i was just spoiled with the CL's, great road pad dont get me wrong just not as good as them i guess
My mate had CL6 on the 172 track car and they were awesome, would be a bit overkill on the road i think be great for track
im gona looking into the RC5+ after the mintex 1144
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