5 Mk I incl Gordini Alpine/ Gordini front brake upgrade

[Gary]

Hi all, has anyone upgraded the fronts of their Dinis to vented discs. You can buy upgraded group 2 solid discs, but surely there must be a simple upgrade, maybe modify a gt turbo front disc and caliper to suit. Any recommendations or guidance appreciated. Thanks Gary

 

[Number 11]

Big job , proberbly not worth it unless it's for a race series , but in general for road cars.....
Ferodo DS3000 pads for the track are awsome, and DS2500 for the road are a massive upgrade, if you hanvnt already tried them and also reconditioned calipers are a surprising improvement as is a new master cylinder,flexible lines, not forgetting a good fluid, with this set up you will notice a marked improvement over standard , but they will need cooling ducts forsure.....

 

[Number 11]

Maybe a pre generation change model will suit, like a 12 or fuego.... Any double wishbone model....????? Pre 1985?????

 

[Brigsy]

Iirc i seen a dini that had the hubs redrilled to 4x108 and had vented discs/4 pots on. A fair bit of work to be honest

 

[Gary]

I can buy a310 vented discs which fit direct, but they usually run with a r17 caliper was wondering if the exiting calipers can be widened to tak a vented disc, used to buy widening kits for the old princess four pots, I intend to dismantle the caliper to see if a slide off a gt turbo will fit?

 

[Brigsy]

How big are the a310 discs?? Might be able to slip a small wilwood 4 pot caliper over with a custom bracket?? Rally design do loads of different sized calipers and not too expensive.

 

[Number 11]

True above .... But the bearings are tiny as are the wishbone bushes, and 3x10mm wheel studs....

Renault solved the problem along with a few others by mounting the Renault 30 wishbones, dampers and hub to create the Renault 5 Turbo, and Mecca parts sell these remade.,
I think the gordini is great but Renault never raced it seriously as with other models, maybe they felt it had reached its potential, don't forget it is a 1960's Renault 4 ...... Underneath.....

 

[Gary]

True above .... But the bearings are tiny as are the wishbone bushes, and 3x10mm wheel studs....

Renault solved the problem along with a few others by mounting the Renault 30 wishbones, dampers and hub to create the Renault 5 Turbo, and Mecca parts sell these remade.,
I think the gordini is great but Renault never raced it seriously as with other models, maybe they felt it had reached its potential, don't forget it is a 1960's Renault 4 ...... Underneath.....

Didnt they retained the 5 top wish bone, and modded them on the TDC and Cevennes to take coil over,

 

[Number 11]

Maybe, I stand corrected.....
We need The Master...... Colinski...........

What ever the solution, it would be great to see a Gordini at Blyton , for the National Day.........

 

[Gary]

Maybe, I stand corrected.....
We need The Master...... Colinski...........

What ever the solution, it would be great to see a Gordini at Blyton , for the National Day.........

Might make a year March!! but this one is definatelty out of the question!!

 

[Sam Fish]

I think the vented discs are Renault 17TS - I think they go on with different carriers maybe? I've been trying to find out... My Dad has done it before.
But as Number 11 says, the racers used solid discs for decades. Although I don't think they used the brakes very much! ha

 

[Number 11]

Renault 5 atmo V Renault 20/30 front disk's

 

[Number 11]

Found them.... Vented disks for the Gordini......
300 euro a pair at Mecca Parts....

 

[Gary]

Thanks fish, yes have looked at all these and ad you said I'm jot sure if they used Renault 30 hubs?

 

[ren5gord]

Renault 12 Gordini / A310 discs are the same £15 each on ebay. Renault 30 discs are bigger I think 254mm instead of 229mm.

search on Ebay "RENAULT R12 ALPINE (A310) 1972-1977"

 

[Gary]

Renault 12 Gordini / A310 discs are the same £15 each on ebay. Renault 30 discs are bigger I think 254mm instead of 229mm.

search on Ebay "RENAULT R12 ALPINE (A310) 1972-1977"

Thanks, the annoying thing with most of these pis the pictures shows vented discs but when you contact them they are solids

 

[ren5gord]

I have a set of these discs and they are vented.

 

[Gary]

I have a set of these discs and they are vented.

Yes you can buy them for the A310 or meca have them for the alpine meca are $300, are they on your car if so what calipers have you used?

Thanks

 

[ren5gord]

They are making a good profit then!!
I converted mine to 4stud. I was gonna use some AP radial mount calipers. Not sure what the 5Coupe would of used, i guess maybe 12G or R16 calipers and carries.

 

[Gary]

They are making a good profit then!!
I converted mine to 4stud. I was gonna use some AP radial mount calipers. Not sure what the 5Coupe would of used, i guess maybe 12G or R16 calipers and carries.

I have also altered mine to 4 stud, and have opted for 5 gt turbo calipers and grooved dics for now, the car will not be rallied so they will suffice.