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Warming Up

monkey636

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Hi all,

I'm still not happy with the way my car warms up. Has anyone replaced the thermostat? if so does the brass/copper bit go engine side and the long silver shaft sit in the housing or the other way around?! Just making sure i've fitted it properly, otherwise i'll completely flush the system again.

Cheers,

Charlie.
 
Here's a pic (i appreciate the seal isn't on the thermostat in this pic!)
thermostat.jpg
 
Well after the FIFTH time of removing the thermostat housing i've figured out what's going on!! It's all to do with the £3. plastic/rubber gasket.

Rather than fitting the gasket on the thermostat (as in my picture) the gasket needs to be forced into the groove inside the housing. This took a fair bit of brute force especially as my hands were absolutely freezing!

(I originally thought the gasket fitted on the thermostat as this is how it came out and the Renault manual in it's suitably vague normality states refitting is opposite of removal!)

I also checked the new thermostat in a bowl of hot water with a thermometer to ensure it was opening and closing around 82.5 degrees.

So with the gasket located in the housing, I greased the thermostat shaft with Molykote 111 so it can slide through the gasket and fitted it shaft side into the housing, bolted everything back up, degassed the coolant and it now warms up like it should!! and no deviation from half way when it reaches there either :)

The problems warming up usually start after i've been on a trackday or it's been really hot so I think what happens is that the thermostat expands and then when it retracts because the core drops below 82 degrees it drags the gasket out of the housing which results in a gap where coolant can flow through from the radiator from cold.

Hopefully the Molykote will stop this happening in the future, as when i've taken out the old gaskets they don't slide very freely over the thermostat.

I'm pretty much an expert at removing the housing now, so if anyone needs any advice let me know!
 
i've had the temp gauge up in the red before after being on track and leaving it standing (engine off) heat soak is massive, either that or my car's knackered! LOL As soon as you run the engine the temp gauge drops back to halfway

has only happened on hot days though
 
I've had two thermostats replaced in attempts to get the gauge needle off the bottom on a cold day. The problem arose after my engine was stripped down and rebuilt (to a fashion).

I dismissed the idea that my engine just didn't get warm enough. Reading your post Monkey, I'm thinking my suspicions were right all along. A certain garage simply didn't take enough time or have enough experience to sort it out properly.
 
Mine takes for ever to warm up too. I thought this was just characteristic of the clio V6. I take it I'm wrong. I was even considering fitting a Pre heat pump that fits inline on a rad hose.
 
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