Rear Tyres

[Chopper]

What rear tyres would people recommend? Am due a change on my Mk2 Vee and had a quick look on the web. Looked on K-Tech and saw the Toyo T1 Styres or Rtyres - what is the difference between the 2? Any others i should look at?

Also, is there anything else I should be aware of when getting the rears changed, e.g. will i need ot have the tracking checked etc?

Many thanks in advance for any help. :winky:

 

[® Andy]

Must admit I stuck with PS2s when I did mine recently. Whilst there is a bit more choice on the rears than on the fronts (where there's really no choice other than PS2s unless you start changing sizes), I decided that given the 18k miles I get out of my rears (given my mostly motorway or sedate roads route to work), I'd stick with the original spec.

I got my tracking checked and found that my rear toe was out (possibly from when I had a clutch change very early on in the cars existence), and so I'd always recommend you get your geometry checked.

 

[Anonymous]

What rear tyres would people recommend? Am due a change on my Mk2 Vee and had a quick look on the web. Looked on K-Tech and saw the Toyo T1 Styres or Rtyres - what is the difference between the 2? Any others i should look at?

Also, is there anything else I should be aware of when getting the rears changed, e.g. will i need ot have the tracking checked etc?

Many thanks in advance for any help. :winky:

Stick to the tyres that come on the car. pilot sports. they are the one's for the car, nothing else.
i have had customers putting the toyo's and other make on and dont like the feel .
the clio v6 needs all the help is can get when putting down the power. the clio v6 is'nt an old banger put on the best tyres.
if you do lots of running you buy the best trainers. well stands to reason if you have lots of power the get the best tyres.

 

[scotty6r4]

Toyo proxe T1R's,Ask tim v6 what he thinks of them with 300bhp and wet weather!!!

 

[TRW1]

I've used Goodyear F1 and T1S.
I found both better than Michelin as they were more progressive compared to the Michelin's more sudden loss of grip at the limit.

 

[Dan]

I'm going for Goodyear F1s next. I've been running on Nexans that the previous owner put on. Thankfully, been that they're utter crap they've also worn really quickly.

Dan

 

[LT]

I've got F1's on and will use again when needed.

 

[k1ano]

I also prefer a tyres that breaks away progressively rather than ones that perhaps has more grip but just breaks without warning - especially in the wet ... I like all the predictability I can get in the Vee

Martin

 

[clarkiev6]

agreed...i use nangkangs and love them,,

 

[Chopper]

Glad everyone is in agreement!Think i'll look at both PS2's and Goodyear F1's and make a decision then. Will also get the geometry / tracking checked to makes sure it's all spot on.

Thanks for all the replies.

 

[k1ano]

Tyres are really a preference thing IMHO and really suit your driving style and skills etc.

Going for the stock Michelin Pilot tyre is a safe bet as, of course, they are designed for the car and maximum grip. Due to this grip they are not really progressive so, providing you don't push the car past it's limit and the road conditions you should be fine. Pushing the car past the limits could result in sudden loss of grip which can be uncontrollable - especially in the wet ...

This is probably why those of us who have tried different tyres on the Vee and other cars are able to pool opinions to maybe allow informed choices to be made but apart from a steer (forgive the pun) owners have to chose a tyre which best suits the mixture of factors i.e. driving style, use of the car, wear rate v grip, reviews, budget etc. It is often the case that once, and if, you are happy with a tyre brand and type you might stick with it no matter what car you own.

I for example used to swear by the Goodyear GSD3 tyre but took an informed gamble on the Toyo Proxy T1R which I found to be pretty similar but, at the time cheaper, and with a harder wearing shoulder improving turn in. On the Vee I decided to change from the stock Michelin Pilot to a Continental Sport Contact tyre and have found these very grippy in the dry and break away progressivley like the Goodyear and Toyo. I have had a few 'moments' in the Vee with teh Continental tyres in the wet and the dry and they feel safe for me and suit my driving style which is definately towards inducing some rear-end oversteer ... Not least of all to enable me to learn how to 'catch' the car when it does break away and before the steering lock runs out and you go into an uncontrollable spin.

Martin

 

[SimonLM]

Vredestein thats what I used no problems in all road conditions, may not be track tyres but great in the wet. And if there good enough for Aston Martin then the Vee should have no problems.

 

[v6Max]

Personally I'm not convinced the OEM fit tyres are on the car for any other reason than the fact that Michellin is a French company.

Many of us have done a bit of playing around with tyre choices over our ownership and in the main all seem to move to a different tyre.

For me the Toyo T1 (R or S) proved to be better than the PS1, PS2, Pirelli etc that I've tried giving a good balance between wear rate and grip. They also proved capable on track although I'd like to have tried R888s as well but I'm simply not that brave...

 

[Anonymous]

Personally I'm not convinced the OEM fit tyres are on the car for any other reason than the fact that Michellin is a French company.

I can tell you that this isn't true. Even the Goodyear development factory lies almost in France. It has all to do with the development for the customer and the willingness of the tyre producer to develop a tyre specially for the car. I've mentioned it before, but the whole phase 2 project was almost canned because the Renault development team couldn't find the right tyre. You can actually thank Michelin that the phase 2 exists. After that, also Porsche addapted to the Michelins to the Boxter, though they tend to apply Bridgestone. So there isn't anything "french connection" in this one. And blimey, the boxter is also a midengined car with similar performance.
For a road legal car one has to look at the overall performance.
Yes there will be tyres more grippy on a track, and maybe even some who do better in the rain, but count up everything, so also economical things like lifespan, and the PS2 is on top. I want to meet anybody else who can run 60000 kilometers on their rear tyres and about 45000 kilometers on the front.

 

[TRW1]

I want to meet anybody else who can run 60000 kilometers on their rear tyres and about 45000 kilometers on the front.

Harry, Are you sure you're driving it hard enough?? :winky:

 

[v6Max]

Isn't that the wrong way round? Your front tyres are lasting longer than your rears which seems a little odd but I'll concede that's very impressive if you're getting that sort of life out of the tyres.

Perhaps my opening statement in the original post was poorly judged on my behalf but I'd still stand by a personal belief that tyres are a personal choice and that in the main those choices when taken by a large number of people have not been in favour of the OEM fit for whatever reason.

 

[clarkiev6]

mich on car when i got it...rears lasted 5500 miles and the fronts 20,000.

 

[TRW1]

mich on car when i got it...rears lasted 5500 miles and the fronts 20,000.

Good boy Clarkie, that's more like it!

Donuts anyone?

 

[Anonymous]

I want to meet anybody else who can run 60000 kilometers on their rear tyres and about 45000 kilometers on the front.

Harry, Are you sure you're driving it hard enough?? :winky:

Yes I am, just split the differential for the second time, due to hard acceleration. :s
Time for a modification here.

No for real, I do about 60000 km with the rear. I mostly drive very long stretches. The front run shorter, because they wear more on the inside. And I already corrected the Toe settings on them, but run maximum camber front and rear.

 

[clarkiev6]

mich on car when i got it...rears lasted 5500 miles and the fronts 20,000.

Good boy Clarkie, that's more like it!

Donuts anyone?

[smilie=icon_cheers.gif] get about 7500/8000 on the nangkangs...and they are half the price.