R19 gearbox removal

[f-type]

which do you think is the best way to remove the gearbox from the car without removing the engine in an r19 16valve with tin sump?any piece of advice would be helpful...

 

[f-type]

also i was wondering if a small piece of rubber tube (8mm diam,2 cm length) that accidentaly fell into the gearbox,will cause any damage...

 

[devo]

Did it fall into the gearbox itself or the bell housing?

 

[f-type]

it fell inside the gearbox through the fiilling plug...

 

[f-type]

i've done many miles though since then and nothing bad seemes to happen...anyway i don't have any other alternative than leave it there because in order to find it i would have to dismandle the entire box to get there.it's a jb3-028 anyway so baybe i would like to try something shorter...

 

[kujtek]

3028 is one of longest gearboxes in R19, goes with diesels and f3n monopoint usually
probably any other gearbox will be shorter

ps. did you read my pm? i asked about your a/c panel...

 

[f-type]

what about it?did i say something about a/c?i can't remember..

 

[kujtek]

hey, you posted here:
http://www.retro-renault.com/forums...-conditioning-panel-phase-1-a.html#post164872

 

[f-type]

yes right..nothing is for sale though...i had only stated that i had this original setup on my car...sorry..

 

[devo]

Not sure if you can take the gearbox out of the car without dropping the subframe.in witch case you might aswell pull the engine out aswell.its possible to replace the clutch and/ or crank seal without taking the box out. Its a tight job tho

 

[Chris H]

you can take the box out with the engine still in place.

 

[Ronald16V]

Lowering the subframe on the gearbox side wil do the job, don't forget to losen and remove the bolt from the steering-rack to the steering wheel.

In my trackday-19 16V it's possible in about 4 hours to change the gearbox, but that car doesn't have al the plastic parts like a street car behind the fenders.. and.. clean nuts and bolts..

 

[Chris H]

you can do it without dropping the subframe on rhd cars.

Take the 2 long studs out to make life a lot easier as well

 

[f-type]

thanks chris..it's a lhd. So i suppose the best way to do it is to clear the gearbox area as much as possible and lift the gearbox upwards to remove it from the engine bay without touching the subframe and the engine..yes?remember that we are talking about 16v with tin sump so there won't be any gearbox studs etc etc...

 

[Chris H]

theres 2 long studs, one into the block and one into the box at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. These you need to take out.

Take the front mount bracket off the box as well.

 

[f-type]

ah yes i remember these two studs..the one is near the starter.the other at the front often comes off with the nut..with laguna f-engines i remove the gearbox with these studs on but then again on laguna the subframe is not a problem..But for 19 it will probably be easier with the studs removed..
Which way out is the easiest for the final removal of the box then..?i think from above...:?

 

[Chris H]

up is the only way it can go

 

[f-type]

thank you!