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2004 Acid Yellow V6 YEH on Collecting Cars - 16/05/2023

David T

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This one's back on the market again! It sold at Silverstone Auctions back in Nov 2022 at £92,250. 13,259 miles now, 13,250 miles then.
The most recent MOT is 24/03/2021.
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Can it really get more than £92,250 in such a short period of time?
 
David T":1f0l4aan said:
This one's back on the market again! It sold at Silverstone Auctions back in Nov 2022 at £92,250. 13,259 miles now, 13,250 miles then.
The most recent MOT is 24/03/2021.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=24236

Can it really get more than £92,250 in such a short period of time?
My acid faced a lot of prejudice from Collecting Cars because they failed to understand ‘provenance’ and wouldn’t give me much licence to exalt the specialness of interior.

As far as they were concerned it was a clean ‘Yellow’ Clio V6. They were surprised as any lay-person that it went for a decent sum.

I suspect they will now humour this upcoming acid auction with a strong reserve. Their fees were bare minimum if the bidding didn’t achieve a sale.

For anybody watching the auction - only when it is specified as ‘No Reserve’ has the bidding reached a sufficient level to achieve the predetermined reserve.
 
Kett":cdvj0v7e said:
David T":cdvj0v7e said:
This one's back on the market again! It sold at Silverstone Auctions back in Nov 2022 at £92,250. 13,259 miles now, 13,250 miles then.
The most recent MOT is 24/03/2021.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=24236

Can it really get more than £92,250 in such a short period of time?
My acid faced a lot of prejudice from Collecting Cars because they failed to understand ‘provenance’ and wouldn’t give me much licence to exalt the specialness of interior.

As far as they were concerned it was a clean ‘Yellow’ Clio V6. They were surprised as any lay-person that it went for a decent sum.

I suspect they will now humour this upcoming acid auction with a strong reserve. Their fees were bare minimum if the bidding didn’t achieve a sale.

For anybody watching the auction - only when it is specified as ‘No Reserve’ has the bidding reached a sufficient level to achieve the predetermined reserve.

Bit off topic but how was the selling experience with Collecting Cars?

Whilst I wouldn't be opposed to buying something through them, I find the whole platform intentionally misleading. My perception is that the less discerning buyer might think that Collecting Cars has somehow 'qualified' the car for sale as a decent example, on the basis they only sell 'interesting' cars and have a great catalogue of photographs to display. The prospective buyer probably doesn't feel the need to examine the car in person as they might if it were an eBay/Autotrader/Pistonheads advert but, in reality, who the hell knows what they are buying. Evidenced by both of Chris Harris' purchases being absolute rotters, despite being heavily affiliated with the site. He thinks it's amusing but I think it's shit marketing.

Or I am totally underestimating most buyers and these cars all get a flurry of people viewing them throughout the bidding process!
 
10":wzm1yyjo said:
Bit off topic but how was the selling experience with Collecting Cars?

Firstly, the discussion got a bit heated when I learned that they wouldn’t humour my whim to have ‘ID interior’ in the main title. I had to relent because of the T&C’s. I did use a intermediary friend because I didn’t want to risk get bullied into a ‘Reserve Lowered’ situation.

Secondly, it was surprising that nobody came to view the car in the flesh. It is well within the bidder’s rights. As it was, my Acid met concours standard, but the bidders might’ve wanted to check for themselves.

Thirdly, some clown tried to upend the process by claiming the roof had been drilled to accommodate it’s safety car hazard light bar wiring. Luckily, I immediately found a picture to show the wire threaded through the door shut.

So, in answer to the question… it’s not a perfect process by any imagination. However, the fees are fairly astronomical with alternatives such as ‘Silverstone Auctions’ and the like. I would recommend bidders visit the actual car beforehand (if of significant value).

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A strong start at £65k yesterday.
Very interesting comments above especially [mention=343,#0000FF]Kett[/mention] experience selling.
The 2 occasions I decided to get involved with sales of 2 Vees which had blatant inaccuracies in their descriptions, CC did act on my concerns by telephoning me to discuss the issues and then taking it up with the sellers.
They are very wary of allowing anything in the description or comments that could open them up to litigation so never want to say that they can confirm anything about the condition of the car but only state " the seller states that ....".

However, I was told they definitely use the "Buyer beware" principal and it is up to buyers to check the history etc and they do not do any checking of the cars but trust the sellers to provide accurate descriptions.
Amazingly very few people do bother to look at the cars.
I went to view the Renault UK Press fleet sell off and they gave a specific day to visit and Scott and I were the only ones there and no one had been prior to us and that was a sale of 8 cars?
 
Now seems to be languishing at £66K, but no doubt there will be a surge during the final 24 hours. Hard to think that it will beat the earlier auction price, but it only needs two buyers to fight it out, much like the recent sale of Nissan R33 GT-R NISMO 400R [v6plaque]40[/v6plaque] (of 40) - there were two bidders who really wanted this particular example, which is not a surprise given its rarity and unicorn status.

Must admit I too had a less-than-ideal experience with CC when I approached them to list my S2000, notwithstanding the fact that they did not have a clue about the S2000 market at the time (in 2020, during the pandemic), so ended up going with The Market, which was a very pleasant (and hands-free) experience. They handled everything, including storage for the duration of the auction, any viewings before and during the auction, and, finally, dealing with the buyer afterward and ensuring that the buyer paid up and collected the car within the designated time window.

More recently (in 2022), I did attempt to get one of the others. which was not as straightforward to value, but nevertheless, the experience was more or less similar. There was no change, even though I used an intermediary - it seems that CC's mode of operation appears to set the reserve at a figure that is lower than optimum, which is more beneficial to CC's bottom line rather than achieving the seller's objectives.
 
Carl’s car was always well looked after, bet he wishes he hadn’t gone and sold it now! Wonder if anyone has picked up on the side pods and decals yer :rofl: seems to have stalled at 66 but let’s see what tomorrow brings :approve:
 
As advised by myself previously, when the ‘No reserve’ icon appears - it has hit its reserve. £70k was that mark. (I thought it might’ve been set slightly higher.)

Let’s hope the seller gets a decent result.
 
Chunky loss. sold for £78792 with buyers fee. (£73500 on the hammer).
Seems the whole classic car market is cooling from the Covid peak when people had nothing else to spend their money on.
Mind you nearly £80k for an impractical 2 seat 18 year old French hatchback is sill strong :) (just not if you paid more 6 months ago) ;)
 
As per the above, that's a fair sized loss over a 6 month period. Perhaps the owner's circumstances had changed so it was a forced sale. I also thought the reserve would have been higher than £70k, though that could have been alleged pressure from CC, or the owner's need to ensure that it sold.

A great result for TerribleExpert. Assuming that he still has LY [v6plaque]301[/v6plaque], then he will soon have a LY and an Acid Yellow side by side. He won't be the first to own 2 or more Ph2s but I don't remember anyone with that colour combination. It doesn't look like he's looked in here since buying [v6plaque]301[/v6plaque] sadly. From his question on CC it seemed like he thought Ph 2 Vees came with glass/perspex engine covers. [v6plaque]301[/v6plaque] came with one but it left the previous owner as standard.

Good news that it's staying in the UK, rather than another yellow one going down under.
 
David T":1tezgdna said:
I also thought the reserve would have been higher than £70k, though that could have been alleged pressure from CC, or the owner's need to ensure that it sold.

I suspect it was pressure from CC, however their call was unfortunately spot on.

The car market is a little turbulent at the moment. I don’t think it’s a particularly good time to buy or sell.
 
floe.90":2w43l4wu said:
[v6plaque]147[/v6plaque] Being offered for sale at Contemporary Classics £99,995

That's a bit odd. TerribleExpert was definitely the winning bidder.
The next bidder was CC1, perhaps Contemporary Classics?
I wonder why that fell through. Surely it wasn't the condition of the car. Interesting.

Gulp on the asking price now !
 
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