Variety?

[V6 2HOT]

Interesting views being expressed.

I think from most aspects the club is still the same. The only difference as Taipan has pointed out is the 'extreme' modding aspect which has definately gone.

Brett's project is just not applicable to majority of owners who want to mod as it's going to be a vee shell casing totally different major internal components but what a project you have there mate :bow:

Ben and Jon's are the most relevant as the engine is still a renault oem variant. I think the fact most projects cost money but more importantly the time expended is ridiculous. The wait times and lack of reliability within the motor industry frustrated many. Especially those going for big power gains. N/A engine obviously means it takes a lot more effort to extract so little. Hence now there is so little movement in that direction in a pioneering sense.

The vee Kett now owns is actually a good example of how to mod a vee (but unlike Taipan rather it wasn't in the club).

I think overall if you want modding ideas then go to foreign sites as plenty of info out there (yes Jon brush up on you're French!). So yes something has been lost for a select few of us who have been long-term owners but maybe also people dont have the funds to experiment hence flow of info is not there. The thought-provoking, imaginative side of the club has waned only in terms of modding. The only other time I am as riveted is when GPH came on and was giving us the history and stories and behind the scenes aspects of the V6. Or when Dulan posts up coming from a porsche background your insights are fascinating. But for those who haven't read that info I sure you will be glued to the forum for hours and months to come. For those of us who have read it then we crave more info, insight and that has dried up. Our addiction for new knowledge is not being satisfied!!

I do feel a little sorry for new owners cos they have missed out on a lot of V6 adventures. From before my time thru Mas Du Clos 2010 and onwards.

One thing that has to be said for a car that is 10yrs old based on it's facelift and 15 yrs old based on Paris 1998 Motorshow, the vee still looks stunning and doesn't look dated. Later today in London that will point will be proven

 

[Matt]

Interesting Nas you mention 'pursuit for new knowledge' this has been coming up a lot on other forums I'm on too. I'd argue informtion on the forums isn't knowledge just info and it's both what we do with it (practical aspects like fixing problems on our cars and how we interpret it is the knowledge bit) but I was wondering if with the rise of social media and Twitter now access to 'up to date information' instantly is having an affect on how we use and see forums. Are forums now just a source of information and the social side more lending itself towards Twitter? I know I chat more on there now about cars to a wider audience than on here. Ill pop on here to see if there's any interesting updates (relating to Jons points) but often it is relatively quiet. I think the clubs true niche area is the meets and that sense of belonging for owners of the clio. Possibly moving into a different stage of usage as technology moves on...

 

[Lankan]

Certainly information on pretty much any subject can be readily found on a myriad of different channels one can easily tap into via the internet (e.g. sites, newsletters, social media, alerts etc.). However, IMO, unless one joins a forum or a club, the experiences gained by others, and knowledge imparted, becomes rather detached (i.e. makes it difficult to relate to the subject matter without interacting directly with the person posting/sharing the info). Having been part of this forum for over 2 years now, that is what I find most useful, coupled with the friendly nature of the club and those who I have met and interacted with on matters relating to the Vee and other cars. To me that is another aspect of "Variety" that makes it worthwhile being a member of a particular group or club.

It is good to see that having interests in other makes and models are not seen as taboo or unreasonable, but to me at least, very encouraging. I have enjoyed the meets and chats with other members, and it certainly is encouraging to see that many share similar interests, so long may that continue...........

 

[V6 2HOT]

It is good to see that having interests in other makes and models are not seen as taboo or unreasonable

It's the only way to gauge where the vee stands in the pantheon of legendary cars.

 

[Lankan]

It is good to see that having interests in other makes and models are not seen as taboo or unreasonable

It's the only way to gauge where the vee stands in the pantheon of legendary cars.

Indeed Nas, but sometimes not everybody feels or sees it that way..........

 

[Matt]

Interest to hear what James thinks about the changing nature of the forum since it began..

 

[Duncan]

Many internet forums died off when social media came along, however, the car ones seem to remain strong.

I dont think this forum has changed much. A few of the bigger posters/personalities/experts are no longer here, mike T/V6 Max, Peter255, TRW1, Jainy, K1ano (although Martin still pops along time to time!)... they all made a significant contribution to the feel of the forum, however the feel of the club remains and the meets are just as special as they always were.

The pursuit of knowledge is a interesting point. That certainly is an appeal for me, i know look outside this forum too so still get my fix of knowledge. My major interest is looking after the register, its great finding a new one for the data base (1091 in the register out of 2822 total worldwide!!).

agree with Naz, the knowledge from GPH's posts is fascinating. Would love to hear more tales from the early days.

There are still a few things i really enjoy researching....the lutecia plaques, famous owners, the trophy cars (and where they are now), the id pack options from other countries, tales from TWR days, development cars, renault press cars from other countries.....etc. lots of stuff still to track down.


its great that people get different things from these cars. As far as i can remember people have been sorning them and not using them in the wet so thats nothing new.....and not suprising considering the lack of rust protection (none on the phase ones and sporadic at best on the phase twos).

 

[taipan]

Some really good points being made. I guess if you narrow it down to one single aspect then yes things have changed, but I agree, if you look at it from a macro level then the forum as a whole has passed the test of time relatively unchanged!

Yesterday's London meet for instance confirmed that at the heart of all Vee owners is an enthusiast and it's only how they practice that enthusiasm that differs from owner to owner.

Had an interseting chat with Duncan yesterday regarding how we thought things would change if/when the cars start the appreciation curve. Then I'd expect you'd encourage a lot more collectors/investors to the forum. Not sure if that would be a good thing or not really.