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Suppliers for the next group buys (ECU remap and/or Springs)

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From: "Chipped UK LTD" <[email protected]>

Hi there,

Yes we offer group discounts, usually 15-20% off standard costs.
We can map and dyno almost all cars and offer many years experience in
tuning.

If you need anything else please ask.

Jayson.


ChippedUK
Performance ECU Tuning

20% Thats more like it! :twisted:

Peter :D
 
would we all need to go together or could I go to one up here and get the same discount? becuase i just noticed that there is a dealer 2 miles from my house :lol:

cheers
Phil
 
phil":2ssb5icx said:
would we all need to go together or could I go to one up here and get the same discount? becuase i just noticed that there is a dealer 2 miles from my house :lol:

cheers
Phil
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Dunno yet. Hold fire there are lots more companies need to be checked first. :wink:

Peter :D
 
Conversations with RSTuning are now ongoing. :D


Hi Peter

Thanks for the email

I'm sure we can help you out with a remap on the V6. Is yours the 230 or the
255?

The gains won't be massive but should be noticable on the road.

This will be the first V6 as we have been concentrating more on the 225 and
172/182. I would be prepared wo do you a very good deal on this if you were
interested. I will need the car for a good few hours(ideally on a saturday
as i have more time to dedicate!) to look at the full ecu in detail and
setup our software to enable us to optimise performance.

Thanks

Paul
 
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

I can guarantee excellent results and smiles on all faces :D

We specialise in Renaults as you can see from the site and have full dealer tools.

Here is a couple of sample graphs but please note i need to upload the latest 172 one as we have greatly improved the torque.

As for a guide on cost..
We are currently running a group buy on cliosport and the cost per is £245, this includes a full custom map for every customer not one file fits all with 5% here and 10% there :wink:

If you want to see results come see us :lol:

@ Peter, drop me an email or PM as i have something you may be interested in :wink:

Thanks

Paul
http://www.rstuning.co.uk
 
Oooo you are based in Leeds! Only a few miles away from me. I may be able to let you have my car (255) for the day to do some tinkering to see what kind of results we can all expect and then put the feedback on here - you won't even have to pay me for the use of my car :wink:

I'm sure people would be quite interested to get some actual figures.


Pete - I know you are running with this so give me a shout if you need me to get involved with this as they are so close.

ps, does this invalidate the remaining Renault warrenty I have?

Nev
 
I have responded back to ChippedUK and RSTuning. It looks like we have 2 interested companies for the ECU remap group buy. 8)

Whilst that one bubbles along i need to try to get the suspension one back on track....

Peter. :D
 
Just a little note to everybody who wants to perform ECU remapping on the RS2.

Make very, very, sure that the company know the Bosch motronic 7.1 very well!
IT IS A MOTHERF#CKING COMPLEX ECU. :shock:
I know only a few real experts who can access it:
Amongst the ones I know: Porsche and Hugher motorsport.
Not even Renault for that matter.


Anyone who does mods to this system, mostly just fools the airtemperature feed into the ECU, hence it goes from a 1:14.7 towards the 1:12.5 fuel air ratio, which gives a bit more power. :?
As an additional they accelerate the throttle valve towards the pedal position. This gives just an impression of powergain. Works very well with the fillercap and tupperware tuning community.

Let them show you the real 3D mapdata, before you let them fool around with your ECU.
Before you realize you end up with a bit of powergain, but also have a few acceleration dips.

This is also the main reason, why there is so little aftermarket turbo or supercharger development for the RS2.

The RS1 is a different story though.
 
Across the board richening is quite a common technique aswell as 'temperature' emulation.

The electronic throttle is a different story as I can imagine this is a tricky parameter to play with aswell as the variable valve timing. I would imaging these maps are left alone.

I would guess most companies simply just play around with richness at various load sites.

I am also interested in more of the details of what will be done.

I guess though that on a dyno, if all load sites can be accessed via OBD then using a wideband O2 sensor individual sites can be 'optimised' to increase performance on individual cars to compensate for modifications and engine specific conditions. The only issue would be ensuring all load sides are accessed as it is difficult on a dyno to emulate all dricing conditions.

This is why some of the turbo people I know do in-car mapping using laptops as a suplement to dyno mapping. You always seem to sacrifice a bit of driveability though for the power gains.

Martin
 
harry":2fj9ypge said:
Just a little note to everybody who wants to perform ECU remapping on the RS2.

Make very, very, sure that the company know the Bosch motronic 7.1 very well!
IT IS A MOTHERF#CKING COMPLEX ECU. :shock:
I know only a few real experts who can access it:
Amongst the ones I know: Porsche and Hugher motorsport.
Not even Renault for that matter.


Anyone who does mods to this system, mostly just fools the airtemperature feed into the ECU, hence it goes from a 1:14.7 towards the 1:12.5 fuel air ratio, which gives a bit more power. :?
As an additional they accelerate the throttle valve towards the pedal position. This gives just an impression of powergain. Works very well with the fillercap and tupperware tuning community.

Let them show you the real 3D mapdata, before you let them fool around with your ECU.
Before you realize you end up with a bit of powergain, but also have a few acceleration dips.

This is also the main reason, why there is so little aftermarket turbo or supercharger development for the RS2.

The RS1 is a different story though.
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You are right to be cautious. BUT I'd hope that one of the companies involved will be happy to respond to that comment shortly. Paul? You there? :wink: I for one want to see dyno-proven gains not just more noise/ different throttle responce. I want more torque at lower revs and a better spread of power with a higher peak. I am also looking at "fast road" gains not just a little more power at 7K+ rpm. Thats only good for race cars. I want more midrange! :twisted:

Peter :D
 
> Hi there,
.....
> For live mapping on the dyno we would charge £225 if 5 cars were booked on
> the same day.
>
> To forum members the price would be £275 if booked seperately.
>
>
> ChippedUK
> Performance ECU Tuning
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Sounds good for live mapping. :twisted:
Peter :D
 
A cunning plan may be forming.

We have offers from one company based in Leeds, one in Birmingham. Maybe we could use the two. One for northern (Leeds), and one for midlands/southern (Birmingham) owners?

That'd need 5 northern and five southern people approx.

Peter :?
 
Good work Pete ;-)

I would be very interested in the Northern setup.

I would be interested in the following ...

1) Whether the stock map can be 'saved' and re-instated if possible and at what cost and lead-time ?
2) Whether there is any way reading the OBD ports that an 're-mapped' map can be detected ?
3) The extent of what the live mapping does i.e. just fuel enrichments, ignition changes, parameter changes to throttle position, cam timing etc. ?
4) Impact to the catalytic converter if fuel enrichment is done i.e. is it done within the emission tolerances of the legislation our Vees comply to ?

Martin
 
harry":39i998j1 said:
Just a little note to everybody who wants to perform ECU remapping on the RS2.

Make very, very, sure that the company know the Bosch motronic 7.1 very well!
IT IS A MOTHERF#CKING COMPLEX ECU. :shock:
I know only a few real experts who can access it:
Amongst the ones I know: Porsche and Hugher motorsport.
Not even Renault for that matter.


Anyone who does mods to this system, mostly just fools the airtemperature feed into the ECU, hence it goes from a 1:14.7 towards the 1:12.5 fuel air ratio, which gives a bit more power. :?
As an additional they accelerate the throttle valve towards the pedal position. This gives just an impression of powergain. Works very well with the fillercap and tupperware tuning community.

Let them show you the real 3D mapdata, before you let them fool around with your ECU.
Before you realize you end up with a bit of powergain, but also have a few acceleration dips.

This is also the main reason, why there is so little aftermarket turbo or supercharger development for the RS2.

The RS1 is a different story though.
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Hi Harry

I can assure you this will not be the case if we do the job. I will be happy to give SOME info on what we are changing but obviously need to keep some stuff close to the chest :wink:

We use WinOLS to modify all our maps and are quite capable of doing the ME7.x ECU. :wink:
I was under the impression that the V6 has the ME7.4? (could be wrong)

As i stated befor i would like to see an original file so i can setup all the required maps etc...

Hope this helps

Paul
 
1) Whether the stock map can be 'saved' and re-instated if possible and at what cost and lead-time ?
We always keep a backup of the original data

2) Whether there is any way reading the OBD ports that an 're-mapped' map can be detected ?
The only sign on the clip will possibly be a program date. This may also not be the case but i can check on the first car no probs at all.

3) The extent of what the live mapping does i.e. just fuel enrichments, ignition changes, parameter changes to throttle position, cam timing etc. ?
I don't live map so can't answer that one mate

4) Impact to the catalytic converter if fuel enrichment is done i.e. is it done within the emission tolerances of the legislation our Vees comply to ?
There is no worry at all with the CAT and the emissions will be well within the law. We usually find slightly better than stock on most vehicles!

Thanks

Paul
 
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