Rear Rose Joints

[jimm]

Any one got any info on Rear Rose Joints as i have a bit of sideway play when shaking the rear wheels left to right. Am i right in thinking there is a inner and outter . Need to get 4-wheel alignment done anyway so want to get these done first!!
cheers jimm

 

[Jamesv6]

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All very technical for me. I know item 2 costs £30 +vat

I'm guessing a ball joint is aka rose joint?

 

[captain]

funny i had the same! a very slight knocking noise at low speed when coming to a stop when i jacked the rear up there was also slight movement and knocking noise from left to right i found that the locking nut between item 16 and 17 was loose,what a t#@t to get at.
i would have had to remove bumper+ back box just to get access to the rose joint bolt, but manged to tap the nut tight again with a hammer and chisel from above for the moment.

 

[jimm]

Ordered a pair of inner joints on the track rod end ( the expencive ones from renault ) from Scott at SG. Hopefully these will cure the prob as i noticed a bit of wear in them when i jacked the car up. Renault wanted 250 squid each for them !!!!! Thanks for the info guys always very helpfull!!! [smilie=thanks.gif]

 

[tarmac terrorist]

They are M14 rose joints about £30 from Merlin Motosport

 

[davilamb]

Hey guys, my mechanic said my #12 and #11 are a bit loose when tightened, do u know the prices of those too?
they want like 90 pounds each from renault hk

 

[tarmac terrorist]

If james can give you the original part no then I'm pretty sure it is a standard Lemforder part and is common to the Laguna. If i have the original part i can cross reference it and give you a part and a HGK contact to try and get it through

 

[Jamesv6]

Saw this earlier but couln't get details until my local dealer opened.

#11 - TIE ROD RENAULT
ARM STG LH LA
Part number : 6000022737
£41.01 GBP +vat

#12 - TIE ROD RENAULT
ARM STG RH LA
Part number : 6000022736
£41.01 GBP +vat

 

[tarmac terrorist]

#11 - TIE ROD RENAULT
ARM STG LH LA
Part number : 6000022737
£41.01 GBP +vat
http://webcat.zf-trading.com/nc2_teile_ ... 5&KMODNR=0

#12 - TIE ROD RENAULT
ARM STG RH LA
Part number : 6000022736
£41.01 GBP +vat
http://webcat.zf-trading.com/nc2_teile_ ... 5&KMODNR=0

Should be a damn site cheaper than Renault - Any good parts factor should be able to order them with the info from the webcat.

Failing that:
ZF Hong Kong Ltd.
Unit 1, 2/F, Technology Plaza
Nos. 29-35 Sha Tsui Road
Tsuen Wan, New Territories
Phone: +852 2615 9353
Fax: +852 2615 9689

Hope that helps

 

[Jamesv6]

part info
* brand: LEMFÖRDER info
* 21194 01
* Tie Rod End

manufacturer compare numbers
# RENAULT 60 00 022 736

part info


* brand: LEMFÖRDER info
* 21193 01
* Tie Rod End
manufacturer compare numbers
# RENAULT 60 00 022 737

 

[davilamb]

Wow
hk is charging me double that
thanks guys
I will give zf a call
but I don't understand though, zf carries lemforder and Renault using lemforder?
Lemforder is like a supplier like valeo/Bosch?

Oh...zf gearboxes?
Thanks again!!

 

[WONGY]

Weird coincidence but my dealer checked my car last week and said the two track rod ends were also loose on my car as well, quoted me 100 quid each for them for 6000022736 & 6020011728

They also quoted me a whopping 850 quid a piece for part numbers 9 - 6020011728

But looking at the above ZF have a branch in Hong Kong where I live so will check them out.

James I couldnt find those part numbers on the webcat site only for front tie rods, any chance you could post the links plus if you could find 6020011728 as well would help alot!

 

[davilamb]

Hey Jonathan
I will give them a call tomorrow and ask if they can get 2 pairs

 

[tarmac terrorist]

Wongy - link is in my post further up. Should take you directly to the part info
http://webcat.zf-trading.com/nc2_teile_ ... 5&KMODNR=0

http://webcat.zf-trading.com/nc2_teile_ ... 5&KMODNR=0



Part number 9 is linked with merlin motorsport further up in another of my posts. £30ish each...
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1367 ... de01c8a807

 

[tarmac terrorist]

James I couldnt find those part numbers on the webcat site only for front tie rods, any chance you could post the links plus if you could find 6020011728 as well would help alot!

I think if you are referring to the lemforder info - they are front fitment on Laguna - Rear on the Vee. Lot of common parts on the back of the vee from the front of the Laguna

 

[davilamb]

hey, sorry to ask again, are these for mk1 or mk2, the picture is mk2's
They should be the same part for mk1 and mk2 since wongy's number is the same?

 

[Jamesv6]

It's the same picture for mk1 and 2 but the part numbers shown above are for mk 1 items.

16,17,18,19 are MK 2 specific items

 

[davilamb]

Thanks!
16-19 looks like it goes onto the subframe of mk2
will those be needed for the mk2 subfrAme upgrade?(look at the mk2 subframe post and you will see the picture I'm talking about...)

 

[davilamb]

an update...i bought from merlinsports for part 16 and i will customize part 17-19 in hk...
we will see how that goes...

for the people who wanted part 11/12, try to quote from your lemforder dealer
i got the price real cheap from zf hong kong, like 10 quid each shipped (but 7-8 weeks wait to ship)

 

[Steve-V6-D61]

Hi Trying to help Wongy out in Hong Kong with inner ball / rose joints on the rear tie bars on a Phase 1 V6, has anybody got a old phase one inner ball joint or do you know if you can replace the ball joint with a M14 rose joint as a straight swap.

Found these rubber boots for the rose joints to help them last a bit longer.



LINK