Real Tuning with proper BHP the natrual way

[Anonymous]

miketheman2k, I'll stick to Spam you stick to your Halfordising & If you don't think a Bimmer M3's better than a V6 you ain't no petrolhead and yes because I think a M3 bimmer's better doesn't mean I think the V6 is anything less than a cracking little car, I 've owned both so think I'm qualified to make such a statement :thumbdown:

 

[Anonymous]

Last time I checked Halfords didn't sell BMC and Quicksilver products

If I want to go quickly for £13k more, I'll buy an Evo. Most V6 owners like their cars because it's a mental little car straight out of the showroom. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I'd undoubtably have that engine conversion carried out.....but until then I'll have to make do with 0-60 in 5.8 seconds :lol:

 

[clarkiev6]

lol ^^^


stop it now...

 

[Peter255]

Yeah, calm down lads.

There is middle ground here. BMC and Quicksilver is hardly Halfrauds! Its some way above that. Its subtle and doesn't spoil the car. They are slight and (nearly) invisible mods to free up the v6 music, and amyeb some more power. But if I did see neon blue washer jets on a V6, i'd burn it.

Peter

 

[ColinG]

yes i think the filter/exhaust combination most of us have on here now isnt chavvy in the slightest,

however ren, you said something about not being a pretolhead to mike...what kind of petrolhead do you think buys a clio V6...in its own special way its the marketting flop of teh lastn decade..but its unique and special and thats why we buy them..nothing else offers the same experience, my dad drives an E46 M3..and fast as it is...its boring..

however...when the time comes to sell on my vee..a carbon black M3 conv. or TVR sagaris...would fit the bill just lovely!

 

[Anonymous]

Ok, Ok I apologise there your car's you do what you feel you need to, maybe it's me perhaps I don't understand what it's all about but personnally I wouldn,t buy those clear repeater lenses rear LED light cluster, Exhaust, Filter, Quickshift, 19"wheels or any other bits and bobs save that dough and get more bang for your Buck it'll be worth the wait.

 

[ColinG]

lol..d'oh!, i happen to have clear repeater lenses, LED rear clusters, filter, exhaust and 19's on my car...

and i fooking love it!

cars are very personal, i love the rareness of the v6 and i have added a few tasteful touches to get it how i wanted it..im only just turned 21 and i still put style quite highly on my list as well as the v6 having adequate power for what i need..

i have an idea...i'll bags 1st dibs on a go, if you buy an early mk1 and get the conversion! will be awesome! hehe

 

[Anonymous]

ColinG............I'm sure that enthusiasts buy V6's but all I was saying was if your a true petrolhead an M3 would or should be your first choice an M3 CSL even better, Colin I'll test yer on the garage forecourt there's a brand new Carbon Black M3 and a brand new Blackgold Clio V6, you could only have one which one are you going to pick ?.............think about it...........don't let me down now...........(ignore the values just do it on performance handling etc - not looks though)...........SORRY ColinG I didn't know Honest

 

[Anonymous]

Colin G, I've moved the stakes on a bit since I spanked the V6 with a bit of badger scaring, but I have all the correspondence between myself & Hugers re; the conversion and was about to wire transfer the 6000 Euro's to their bank account to allow the custom balanced & lightened crank to be made (8 week lead time) when I saw a badger on the grass verge and decided to give it a scare by chasing it into the bushes, All my dosh at the moment is tied up in a Porsche 964 RS Clubsport which given your comparitively tender years you will mature into in time, anytime you wanna a blast in some Pork just drop me a line

 

[Jamesv6]

Surely it's not a case of "proper" or "Halfords" horsepower - it's what you want of the car.

If it's a road car then I don't see anything wrong in an exhaust to bring out the note and a superchip to make a bit of an improvement to driveability. Neither cost a great deal and neither add a huge amount to the car. Why? Well basically 255 from 3-litres means that the engine is already quite efficient from a naturally aspirated lump. Add 20bhp from Halfords and you are close to the magic 100bhp per litre that is the difficult one to breach cheaply.

Much over 275bhp N/A starts to cost disproportionately both in financial terms and driveability. Cost increases because trick materials are needed - steel cranks, forged pistons etc and driveability suffers when the power band get squeezed to accomodate wilder overlap on the cams.

On a road car, power figures don't matter anywhere near as much as torque and if I ran a V6 on the road and wanted serious power I'd go turbo/supercharger all day long with Nos as an addon if it still wasn't enough. I'd not spend as much as quoted here and I'd have a power curve that I could use. Trying to drive a car that works at high revs on the road and still get the best out of it is fraught with problems, not least the amount of commitment needed to drive on the limit. Forced induction doesn't put anywhere near the internal strain on the motor internals and works best from low down.

All this assumes that you can do something with the handling and brakes and transmission to contain it all - my guess is that ultimately you can't, and that much beyond the Halfords specials (if that's what we are now calling them!) there's little point spending on a V6 as you could spend the money more wisely on an M3, Scooby or Evo.

Unless that is, you think that the car is somehow "interesting" as an engineering challenge or a curio.

Which is why I no longer have a Japanese hairdyer

What a very interesting read that was. Knowledgeable, honest, full of enthusiasm and yet not totally dimissive of gaining "some" more power. Thank you.

 

[Anonymous]

James, Perhaps MikeT has it all wrong then ? I dunno........ is all this tuning talk on this forum then all about getting a throatier sound from your car ? could be and can you lot seriously tell of better performance / power delivery from a £400 chip that maybe adds 10 BHP and a £1000 exhaust that adds probably another 6 BHP, blimey I think that's fantastic ..........now where's my Haines manual

55 ren

whats the best sounding exhaust for my v6 am only looking for a back box

I reckon a set 'O' Bagpipes what do you reckon

 

[Jamesv6]

Being a piper myself, I can assure it would cost more than any 3.5L conversion to get a decent set of bagpipes.

 

[Anonymous]

I would say your right on the money there James but it wouldn't be as quick, you could always go for the ones they sell in Halfords, Oi ColinG you've gone all quite come on out with your answer.......Confess

 

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[Jamesv6]

OMG! Hint taken SIR.

 

[Anonymous]

you lot jumped straight down that guys throught, all he was saying is there is an alternative to sticking halfords parts on the v6 my new car will be just as ren says untill then just have to put up with me old csl lifes a bitch, then you buy a v6 trophy

 

[ColinG]

Ren...if the M3 was a convertible id take it over the v6 obviously..although id have the schnitzer bilstein set-up and 20" type 3 wheels fitted first...and then id have to go a bit halfords and get the gruppe m carbon induction!

i just cant leave anything factory standard...it just annoys me

 

[ant]

I know what the guy is getting at. Exhausts, wheels, air induction is all playtime stuff. I'd love to bore my vee out to 3.5 and do some of that stuff but it is too much dollar. I'd rather buy a CSL.

 

[Tim]

I don't. I wouldn't spend !3K on any car to gain 100BHP.....4 mpg max anyone???? Gotta weigh up the overheads like maintenance, tyres, petrol comsumption and I think it will cost close to £20K in the first year......waste of money. OEM for me thanks very much....why wreck a totally brilliant car and loose £20K in the process......invest in some property instead REN then buy a Veyron....

 

[Anonymous]

R8TDL, that's exactly my point tuning ain't cheap if you can't afford to do it properly leave it OEM - Top man