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Phase 1 - AR02 KYX (#0430) back up for sale....

Lankan

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....with a healthy revision to its price: LINK

Advertised by 'Michael James Classic Cars'.

Seems like a good clean car. Good spec, including coilovers.

Last sold at auction in 2012 for £9,130: LINK
 
The register hasn't been updated to affiliate plaque number 0430 to vehicle AR02 KYX, I also notice there is another uk vee in the register with number 430 (CX02 KSU), there is also a LHD 0430 in the register (outside the uk). :s :s :s
 
That cars had more number plates than ive had hot dinners!l.

All info in the register is correct, I just need to link the two uk entries together as until now had no proof that ar02kyx was no 430. Will do when at a pc tomorrow.

Not a completely clean car though as the ad states. See pics in the register!

The non uk entry is correct.
 
Yup. It didnt go through insurance so doesnt appear as Cat D etc.

Going by the pics in the for sale ad it looks like they didnt get the paint match right on the repair either.

Register is updated with the the two entries joined.
 
Hope whoever is thinking of buying it comes on here, worth the membership fee alone that register :approve: :approve:
 
Good grief, so its not exactly the "Genuine straight, clean car" as they describe it to be in the advert................ [smilie=icon_cry.gif]
 
Up for auction (H&H Classics), again, on 8th October 2014: LINK

Estimate: (£) 9,500 - 11,000 (However, still advertised by Michael James Classic Cars for £12,750: LINK)

Mileage: 44,000 miles
 
Duncan":cqlxsqqo said:
Yup. It didnt go through insurance so doesnt appear as Cat D etc.

Going by the pics in the for sale ad it looks like they didnt get the paint match right on the repair either.

Register is updated with the the two entries joined.
Don't be too blasé about not been through insurance, there are loads out there that have been repaired by their insurance companies in the past as well a privately, they only show on HPI when they have been 'Written off due to being uneconomical to repair' by an insurance company, as cars get older so their values drop hence the changes in economics! Its all down to how information is recorded, this didn't need to be caught or published but the owner was probably being a bit more honest than the majority and the car is now suffering the consequences
 
Ok, so call me stupid if I'm talking shite here.
Yes there are pics of it in a broken state and yes it has been repaired. However, if the damage to that car was purely to replacable parts (everything other than shell) then why a stigma? There are plenty of cars out there for the same money with ill fitting and worn parts to the OCD members. If this has been put together with new or refurbished parts and the only problem is a slighty poor paint match then it's potentially better than most.
 
Oldskoolbaby":kmers8o2 said:
Ok, so call me stupid if I'm talking shite here.
Yes there are pics of it in a broken state and yes it has been repaired. However, if the damage to that car was purely to replacable parts (everything other than shell) then why a stigma? There are plenty of cars out there for the same money with ill fitting and worn parts to the OCD members. If this has been put together with new or refurbished parts and the only problem is a slighty poor paint match then it's potentially better than most.
I have no problem with this, but do take issue if its not described correctly.........so being described as shown below is not appropriate, but to be fair the H&H auction listing does not state this, only the PH advert by Michael James Classic Cars, who may be looking to justify their asking price by describing the car as such.

"Genuine straight, clean car"
 
Your missing my point Dulan. If there is zero damage to the shell and everything that was damaged has been refurbished or replaced, why wouldn't it be a "straight, clean car"?
 
Oldskoolbaby":3sv0z1ql said:
Your missing my point Dulan. If there is zero damage to the shell and everything that was damaged has been refurbished or replaced, why wouldn't it be a "straight, clean car"?
By the same token, why not state something along the line of "Has had minor panel damage and has been repaired with genuine parts", which is what I would expcted rather than "Genuine straight, clean car"?

Granted in years to come these things will not be an issue, but the Vee is still too new for such things to be discounted, and to differentiate such cars from 'Genuine, straight and original' cars, which was my point.
 
Why would they need to though Dulan? If the bodywork isnt upto scratch then that is fair enough. But, if its genuinly been put back together as it should have been then why is it any lesser car than others at £10-12k? Granted this isnt one of those rare ultra rare low milage examples in a rarer colour so it shouldnt command a higher price than any other run of the mill ph1 but it is by all accounts a straight honest car in recent pics.
It seems that only v6clio.net knows of its past. If there is no show of a previous accident repair, how would the current owner know?
 
Oldskoolbaby":1ukqw115 said:
Why would they need to though Dulan? If the bodywork isnt upto scratch then that is fair enough. But, if its genuinly been put back together as it should have been then why is it any lesser car than others at £10-12k? Granted this isnt one of those rare ultra rare low milage examples in a rarer colour so it shouldnt command a higher price than any other run of the mill ph1 but it is by all accounts a straight honest car in recent pics.
It seems that only v6clio.net knows of its past. If there is no show of a previous accident repair, how would the current owner know?
This is basically what I am saying, that if the car has no HPI history and the repair that has been done is to proper, controlled standards, then there should be no issue. Knowledge is a nice to have but unfortunately there is no requirement to admit to any bodywork repairs regardless of how major or conversely trivial they were. How many Vees have not seen a spray gun at some stage in their career??!!
 
This may sound controversial and a bit of a blanket statement but ...

I think sellers (generally of anything) will be inherently vague if they know about any repairs or history which may adversely affect resale value - especially if there is no obligation to reveal them or means to verify i.e. plausible deniability. Add to that differing views of what anyone (buyer, seller or any person on the street) believes, or not, should be mentioned in a for sale ad or ensuing negotiations. Morality will play a part of course on an individual basis.

It's a case of 'caveat emptor' ....
 
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