Part Nos. for Clutch and other bits HELP!

[shinji]

Further to my thread earlier on my clutch troubles

My mechanic has indicated that I need the following new parts can you guys please check whether I have the correct part numbers for my 2001 Ph1 before I order?

Found weeping but I have no idea what this part is call and for?

Gearbox sump plug seal: 77 03 061 149 or 82 00 201 381?

Clutch slave cylinder: 77 00 111 632 or 82 00 124 021?
Elbow piece: 77 00 113 066

Clutch kit: 77 01 206 662 (<- this should be the Ph1 clutch kit right?)

Hose may have splitted. Part No. 60 20 010 837?

In the last pic, the piece that I pointed to, is that the same as the Elbow piece going into the slave cylinder in the 3rd pic?

Seems like my troubles with the vee never ends......

Many many thanks!

Billy

 

[Jamesv6]

First item is No 3 is called BREATHER 82 00 070 686





Other items I've looked up definitely for a phase 1


77 01 206 662 clutch kit
77 00 113 066 connector

77 03 002 752 Gearbox plug SCR M8X125-29 109
82 00 201 381 OIL FILLER PLUG SEAL


77 00 111 632 SLAVE CYL/STOP M2

 

[rustedandrotten]

Weeping from the breather pipe (3) is normally indicative of a grossly overfilled gear box. You need to fill the box and check the level with the proper dipstick (cant remember the number, James??) If you fill up to the filler plug level on the side it will chuck oil everywhere out of the breather until the level drops significantly! Check that your 'leak' isn't gear oil, if it is, when was the gear oil last changed? You might have a more simple fix than you thought!
Pedal down and not returning up is more likely to master cylinder issues.

 

[Jamesv6]

[kb=56]KBase[/kb]

 

[shinji]

Thank you very much to James and Simon :salut:

Weeping from the breather pipe (3) is normally indicative of a grossly overfilled gear box. You need to fill the box and check the level with the proper dipstick (cant remember the number, James??) If you fill up to the filler plug level on the side it will chuck oil everywhere out of the breather until the level drops significantly! Check that your 'leak' isn't gear oil, if it is, when was the gear oil last changed? You might have a more simple fix than you thought!

I will definitely order the gearbox oil dipping tool. But which level on the dipstick is the correct mark for Ph1? The KBase says the C Mark for Ph2 but no info for Ph1

I will want to replace the gearbox oil too since I will dropping the box to replace the clutch.

Pedal down and not returning up is more likely to master cylinder issues.

How to differentiate between clutch master cylinder failure and slave cylinder? I think both would exhibit the same symptom i.e. clutch down and not coming back up

Thanks in advance!

 

[rustedandrotten]

Billy,

The pedal going down and not returning is symptomatic of the Master Cylinder, if it was slave or pipework the master cylinder would allow the pedal to return as it has an internal spring, and then pump again. If you have a fault in the master that does not allow return, the clutch may be disengaged hence no drive, release the hose to the master and see if it is pressurised, if so allow fluid to escape and see if you have drive again, clutch is probably fine! Check also that flexi hasn't been damaged when it might have been clamped in the past using vise grips and ballooned internally.

Simon

 

[rustedandrotten]

Fill to 2.2 litres or until the lubricant level is 42 mm
below the opening of the manual gearbox filler neck.
WARNING: the breather MUST NOT be removed
when filling the gearbox with oil.
Type and viscosity
ETL 8275, 75W 80W

 

[shinji]

Thanks a lot Simon and your answers are better than best! :approve:

You mentioned that if the clutch master cylinder had failed I would have no drive but my condition is that the pedal is not returning but the clutch is still ENGAGED and since pedal is down I can't put into any gears whilst the engine is running. I know the clutch is definitely engaged when I switched the engine off and slotted into 1st, turn the key and the car lurches forward.

Sorry that I haven't been anymore clearer before but would this change the failing part not at the master cylinder.

Many thanks again

Billy

 

[rustedandrotten]

Billy

the fact that the pedal is down indicates that something is jamming in the pedal/master cylinder area and not the clutch end (when you take your foot off the pedal, if the mastercylinder /pedal was OK the pedal would come up), can you pull the pedal up by hand? Is the pedal itself jammed? If you disconnect the hydraukic pipe to the master cylinder going to the slave cylinder, does the pedal return, if not the problem is definitley at the front end!, silly as it sounds, check that a lump of trim or a bolt hasn't dropped into the pedal jamming it. From what you say you don't need a clutch! Have you checked the level in the reservoir? No dirt in there or damage to the feeder hose? Did you find out what the fluid was under the car, gear oil or brake fluid?

Simon

 

[shinji]

Simon, thank you very much for your info for me to check up on!

the fact that the pedal is down indicates that something is jamming in the pedal/master cylinder area and not the clutch end (when you take your foot off the pedal, if the mastercylinder /pedal was OK the pedal would come up), can you pull the pedal up by hand? Is the pedal itself jammed?
If you disconnect the hydraukic pipe to the master cylinder going to the slave cylinder, does the pedal return, if not the problem is definitley at the front end!, silly as it sounds, check that a lump of trim or a bolt hasn't dropped into the pedal jamming it. From what you say you don't need a clutch! Have you checked the level in the reservoir? No dirt in there or damage to the feeder hose? Did you find out what the fluid was under the car, gear oil or brake fluid?

I can definitely pull the clutch pedal by hand but once I push it back down, it stays down. So I don't think it is jammed up by any bits of trim or bolt cos there weren't any resistance when I push or pull the clutch pedal.

The fluid found weeping is brake fluid, my mechanic had inspected it and it is weeping from the elbow connector connecting to the slave cylinder. He tried topping up the fluid reservoir and worked only a couple of pushes on the clutch pedal before it stayed down again.

Does this sound like more that the clutch master cylinder had failed and/or the elbow connector to the clutch slave cylinder? or even the flexi hose that is connected to the elbow connector.

Billy