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Mk2 Megane BC Coilover Set-up, Settings and Ride Height Information

papps

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Good to have this all in one place, as its asked often! :)

This covers a basic guide for how to set up your BC Coilovers for the Mk2 Megane for mixed Road and Track Use.

1. Geometry

i1302.photobucket.com_albums_ag123_papps1_20150909_163801_zpsqtznn2eu.webp

Only the Fronts are adjustable on the Megane from a geometry point of view......So the only 2 things that you should be concerned with are:

a) Camber and
b) Toe....

Camber
A more road bias set up should have -2 Negative Camber on each side, you'll have less 'tram-lining' than with OEM cup suspension on the road to worry about due to the coilovers effectiveness in putting down the power...this is also perfect for someone who maybe does 3 or 4 trackdays a year....

For a more experienced track driver, -2.5 will be the maximum front Camber you'd want to run, with it still being useable on the road, any more than this, and you enter 'track only' territory - I'd start with -2.0 and dial in more as you start to see the sidewall of your tyre wearing, bear in mind, that to utilise the -2.5 or -3 of camber, you'd need to be on the cornering limits of the car more often....

Toe
Some say this is done to choice and preference, but I'm of the school of thought that you need to run some negative toe, to fully utilise the cornering ability of your Mk2 Meg.

With 0 Toe, you'll have the car its most stable on the brakes, no arse twitching at all, but you'll have to fight more at the turn in..leading to turn in understeer.....

With -5 (-0.6mm on an 18" Wheel) minutes on each side (-10 minutes total) you'll have a sharper turn in and be able to get on the power earlier, but you'll have to work to get the most out of the car under braking - only an issue on track.

For reference a MK3 Clio Cup Race car will run -10 minutes toe on each side, (-20 minutes in total) - this is part of the reason (along with the really stiff rear springs) why they have such a fantastic and agile turn in....

I would suggest -5 minutes on each side, so -10 in total for a mixed use vehicle to start with, and then tweak as you see fit.

Here's a printout of -2 Camber and -5 Minutes Toe on each side - my recommended intitial settings:

i1302.photobucket.com_albums_ag123_papps1_20150909_173238_zpsktmxewga.webp

2. Ride Height

This is not an exact science, but as a general rule of thumb you'll want to keep the following in mind.....

The rear of the car should always be higher than the front, this is to balance the car and kill most of the understeer you'd expect from a car that has most of the weight over the front axle...

Myself, and many other Mk2 Megane users have found running the rear 10mm higher than the front works well....

Measuring from the ground, through the centre of the wheel, to the bottom of the wheel arch you should be aiming for 650mm ride at the front and 660mm at the rear....

This will work on the road, you'll be able to clear standard speed bumps, the island humps (to allow large emergency vehicles through) need a little more care and to take a wheel over the middle part of them..

This ride height has been extensively tested through some of Scotlands most severe compressions without any bottoming out issues....

i1302.photobucket.com_albums_ag123_papps1_aST_zps0dosy8mh.webp

3. Damper Settings:

The part that will take the longest time for you to find the balance for your own driving technique and the track conditions on the day....

For the Road, I would suggest 3/30 clicks front and 5/30 clicks rear to start with....

For the Track on 'Street' spring rates I would suggest 8/30 clicks front and 15/30 clicks rear to start with on a dry day.
For track usage on the 'track' spring rates I would try 15/30 clicks all round as a starting point.

i1302.photobucket.com_albums_ag123_papps1_20151205_142406_resized_zpstynexqzl.webp

Feel free to post your BC Coilover set-ups below and whats worked well for you.
 
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Hi I'm new to this forum . Just wondering what length extensions for the knobs did you use ? Also when you say 8/30 15/30 that's from the softest setting winding in correct ? Thanks in advance
 
Hi I'm new to this forum . Just wondering what length extensions for the knobs did you use ? Also when you say 8/30 15/30 that's from the softest setting winding in correct ? Thanks in advance
Hi mate - sorry not been on for a while.

The extenders I used are were actually a bit on the long side, (you loose some of the 'click' sensation so best to have as short as you can) Just checking my invoice, they were 25cm, so I'd go for 20 or even 15cm, I wasn't taking risks as I was the first in the UK to do this I'm pretty sure.
Its a very very handy thing though, especially in changeable weather on a trackday.

Dampers:

Yes you are spot on. I found the best was having the rear firmer, and the front softer - and 8 from soft and 15 from soft (Front/rear)

Nitron and AST in the UK advise firmer rear end and softer front for more track based applications, and I also found it worked the best - but it can of course depend on driving style, tyres, how much weight has been removed and from what part of the car etc.

The BC dampers are really firm, so setting the rear to 15 clicks from soft (ie right in the middle of the 30 click range) I'd say is a good starting point for a track to work from, flatter smoother tracks may well allow you to go to 22-25 clicks on the rear if there's no serious bumps to cause it to jump or skip too much and unsettle the car. It could well be with the much higher average surface temps in Aus that you're standard dry setting would be something firmer, but its a case of playing around, especially depending on the tyres used

I liked the softer front, as for me, it allowed me to get on the power earlier after a bend (it kind of negated the weight transfer to the rear of the car, causing it to squat and then push out into exit understeer) - again, this is just my feeling though.

I've run a firmer front (my first track setting was 10 front, and 8 rear so pretty tame) and worked it up to 25 front and 20 rear...but once I learnt a bit more and tried 8 soft on the front and 15 (middle) on the rear I found that was a much better balance.
 
Hi mate - sorry not been on for a while.

The extenders I used are were actually a bit on the long side, (you loose some of the 'click' sensation so best to have as short as you can) Just checking my invoice, they were 25cm, so I'd go for 20 or even 15cm, I wasn't taking risks as I was the first in the UK to do this I'm pretty sure.
Its a very very handy thing though, especially in changeable weather on a trackday.

Dampers:

Yes you are spot on. I found the best was having the rear firmer, and the front softer - and 8 from soft and 15 from soft (Front/rear)

Nitron and AST in the UK advise firmer rear end and softer front for more track based applications, and I also found it worked the best - but it can of course depend on driving style, tyres, how much weight has been removed and from what part of the car etc.

The BC dampers are really firm, so setting the rear to 15 clicks from soft (ie right in the middle of the 30 click range) I'd say is a good starting point for a track to work from, flatter smoother tracks may well allow you to go to 22-25 clicks on the rear if there's no serious bumps to cause it to jump or skip too much and unsettle the car. It could well be with the much higher average surface temps in Aus that you're standard dry setting would be something firmer, but its a case of playing around, especially depending on the tyres used

I liked the softer front, as for me, it allowed me to get on the power earlier after a bend (it kind of negated the weight transfer to the rear of the car, causing it to squat and then push out into exit understeer) - again, this is just my feeling though.

I've run a firmer front (my first track setting was 10 front, and 8 rear so pretty tame) and worked it up to 25 front and 20 rear...but once I learnt a bit more and tried 8 soft on the front and 15 (middle) on the rear I found that was a much better balance.
Thanks so much for all the info much appreciated
 
You made this knob extensions yourself? Can u tell me how u did it?
Hi Mate - nope I purchased the item from 'TrackFocusDirect'
I'm sure you will be able to find a vendor in the Nederlands :)

Here is what they look like - BC Racing Coilover Damper Adjuster Extenders (Pair)

They come in 3 sizes - 15cm, 20cm and 25cm.

I got 25cm, but that was far too long - go for 20cm or 15cm even, as it will retain much more of the 'feel' from the 'click' when you are adjusting the dampers :)

I had my RenaultSport specialist mechanics at Rentec Autocare in Edinburgh fit them for me, they said it was a very easy job :)

Hope this helps - its a great mod for the BC Coilovers to allow easy adjusting on a trackday!
 
Hello I have recendly buy a renault megane r26 with bc racing br coilovers i am trying to set up like you papps 8 and 15 click but it is imposible it is very strange the coilovers are mounted about 4 months and 5.000km on the front I only have from soft to strong 10 click from min to max only 10 no 30 it is very stange i am doing something wrong? sorry for my english i am spanish @papps
 
Hello I have recendly buy a renault megane r26 with bc racing br coilovers i am trying to set up like you papps 8 and 15 click but it is imposible it is very strange the coilovers are mounted about 4 months and 5.000km on the front I only have from soft to strong 10 click from min to max only 10 no 30 it is very stange i am doing something wrong? sorry for my english i am spanish @papps
Hi Mate..

Hard to say without looking - can you take a video of the front to show what you mean?
Is there any way you can meet with someone who also has the BC Coil-over to see how there's adjusts?
 
Hi Mate..

Hard to say without looking - can you take a video of the front to show what you mean?
Is there any way you can meet with someone who also has the BC Coil-over to see how there's adjusts?

Hello I have meet yesterday a boy with bc racing in a honda, we fix the problem now i have the 30 positions on the coilovers, you continue recomend for track street 8 and 15 and 650mm and 660mm? Or you have improve it more? Thank you @papps
 
I sold my Megane in May 2017 and for the last 1 year I changed to AST5100 actually.

It really depends on the cicruit you drive on - do you have a YouTube video of a lap of the track you drive on?

But for Track Racing yes, I would try:


Front: Rear

a) 10 20
b) 15 25
c) 20 30

Tyre presure is also very important - Try 29psi (HOT) Front; and 34PSI (HOT) rear

If it is raining, you really need very soft for the dampers - like 5 front and 12 rear


On the road I used like 3 front and 8 rear in the end

Hope this helps :)
 
I sold my Megane in May 2017 and for the last 1 year I changed to AST5100 actually.

It really depends on the cicruit you drive on - do you have a YouTube video of a lap of the track you drive on?

But for Track Racing yes, I would try:


Front: Rear

a) 10 20
b) 15 25
c) 20 30

Tyre presure is also very important - Try 29psi (HOT) Front; and 34PSI (HOT) rear

If it is raining, you really need very soft for the dampers - like 5 front and 12 rear


On the road I used like 3 front and 8 rear in the end

Hope this helps :)

Hello sorry but I have not seen your reply since yet I use the car for street going fast... I try the setup of 8/15 but I think is too hard the car jumps and don't absorb the road, thanks. I will try with 3/8?
 
Good to have this all in one place, as its asked often! :)

This covers a basic guide for how to set up your BC Coilovers for the Mk2 Megane for mixed Road and Track Use.

1. Geometry

View attachment 45611

Only the Fronts are adjustable on the Megane from a geometry point of view......So the only 2 things that you should be concerned with are:

a) Camber and
b) Toe....

Camber
A more road bias set up should have -2 Negative Camber on each side, you'll have less 'tram-lining' than with OEM cup suspension on the road to worry about due to the coilovers effectiveness in putting down the power...this is also perfect for someone who maybe does 3 or 4 trackdays a year....

For a more experienced track driver, -2.5 will be the maximum front Camber you'd want to run, with it still being useable on the road, any more than this, and you enter 'track only' territory - I'd start with -2.0 and dial in more as you start to see the sidewall of your tyre wearing, bear in mind, that to utilise the -2.5 or -3 of camber, you'd need to be on the cornering limits of the car more often....

Toe
Some say this is done to choice and preference, but I'm of the school of thought that you need to run some negative toe, to fully utilise the cornering ability of your Mk2 Meg.

With 0 Toe, you'll have the car its most stable on the brakes, no arse twitching at all, but you'll have to fight more at the turn in..leading to turn in understeer.....

With -5 (-0.6mm on an 18" Wheel) minutes on each side (-10 minutes total) you'll have a sharper turn in and be able to get on the power earlier, but you'll have to work to get the most out of the car under braking - only an issue on track.

For reference a MK3 Clio Cup Race car will run -10 minutes toe on each side, (-20 minutes in total) - this is part of the reason (along with the really stiff rear springs) why they have such a fantastic and agile turn in....

I would suggest -5 minutes on each side, so -10 in total for a mixed use vehicle to start with, and then tweak as you see fit.

Here's a printout of -2 Camber and -5 Minutes Toe on each side - my recommended intitial settings:

View attachment 45612

2. Ride Height

This is not an exact science, but as a general rule of thumb you'll want to keep the following in mind.....

The rear of the car should always be higher than the front, this is to balance the car and kill most of the understeer you'd expect from a car that has most of the weight over the front axle...

Myself, and many other Mk2 Megane users have found running the rear 10mm higher than the front works well....

Measuring from the ground, through the centre of the wheel, to the bottom of the wheel arch you should be aiming for 650mm ride at the front and 660mm at the rear....

This will work on the road, you'll be able to clear standard speed bumps, the island humps (to allow large emergency vehicles through) need a little more care and to take a wheel over the middle part of them..

This ride height has been extensively tested through some of Scotlands most severe compressions without any bottoming out issues....

View attachment 45613

3. Damper Settings:

The part that will take the longest time for you to find the balance for your own driving technique and the track conditions on the day....

For the Road, I would suggest 3/30 clicks front and 5/30 clicks rear to start with....

For the Track on 'Street' spring rates I would suggest 8/30 clicks front and 15/30 clicks rear to start with on a dry day.
For track usage on the 'track' spring rates I would try 15/30 clicks all round as a starting point.

View attachment 45614

Feel free to post your BC Coilover set-ups below and whats worked well for you.
 
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