Loltus Exige

[andybond]

In other news I can’t sleep so cleaned the alloys after a track day a few months back. Oops.

 

[andybond]

So I have found a sequential.

Snag is its inside this

Toyota Corolla E12 T-Sport 2ZZGE Club Racing Car / Trac

Built to a good standard. Quaife Sequential 6 Speed Gearbox.

racecarsdirect.com

Guy wont break the car ( fair enough ) but I will.

Anyone want the car above with a LSD equipped C64? Ill be taking the sequential / GCU / gear light etc.

 

[Adey]

hang about you flash bastard, am I reading this right? you just dropped 16 bags on a car just for the gearbox?! bet you man mathed that nicely

 

[Duncan Grier]

As a friend @andybond drop it off with the exige and will swap it over for you and keep the left overs

 

[Mark Davis]

So I have found a sequential.

Snag is its inside this

Toyota Corolla E12 T-Sport 2ZZGE Club Racing Car / Trac

Built to a good standard. Quaife Sequential 6 Speed Gearbox.

racecarsdirect.com

Guy wont break the car ( fair enough ) but I will.

Anyone want the car above with a LSD equipped C64? Ill be taking the sequential / GCU / gear light etc.

I want a seq too, dying for one in fact and trying to make the man maths work. HGT in NZ do a kit for mine but it’s £14k. Ouch

 

[andybond]

hang about you flash bastard, am I reading this right? you just dropped 16 bags on a car just for the gearbox?! bet you man mathed that nicely

I have man maths this to death.
However I find it far, far more agreeable for my marital status to get this car aligned with a buyer before I do a buy.

 

[andybond]

I had to type that as my wife was behind me.

 

[Steve Swan]

Would it not be easier to swap the innards with a kit from Quaife??????????

 

[andybond]

Would it not be easier to swap the innards with a kit from Quaife??????????

Yes, however you cant.

You have to buy the gearset.
Send it to quaife
Pay them to fit it
Buy the extra bits such as gearbox control unit , shifter , gear selector.

You cannot buy the gearset alone and the other bits are frighteningly expensive

 

[Steve Swan]

Every day is a Schoolday. Nothing from Hewland ?? Suppose the market is limited.

 

[andybond]

I can only find quaife who do the parts.

 

[Mark_L]

What’s the box Andy? I’ll ask my co worker who used to work at Ricardo. He was part of the development for the Valkyrie gearbox. He may now of something. Worth an ask anyway.

 

[Mark_L]

Asked if he knows anything about a C64 box but doesn’t unfortunately.

 

[andybond]

Asked if he knows anything about a C64 box but doesn’t unfortunately.

Thanks anyway!

Its pretty much quaife or no-one for these. Whilst quaife box isnt exactly affordable its not £14k+vat either!

The car above is the solution, just need someone to offer to buy it!

 

[andybond]

Sorry guys, my inbox can’t be working as I have had zero offers so far on the car.

 

[Steve Swan]

@andybond . Are you planning to make this car competiton only? I ask as my mate used to Tarmac Rally a Darrian with a Hewland TMT and Geartroniks kit. It was a superb piece of kit, and while it was possible to drive it on the road, it was not friendly. It was truly mindblowing how fast it could sprint to terminal velocity and back down, but it was only happy while either accelerating fast or slowing down fast. Trying to slow shift like you would do with a car on the road does not work out. Have you had some personal experience of this? You need to like stripping and building it as it will need periodic dog ring replacement to keep it working correctly depending on your driving style. Thats why roadcars have never went down this route as it is not friendly at all.
Seen a few pals go down this route on various cars over the years, but even on hillclimb/sprint cars most reverted to synchro as more user friendly if the car has to be road driven.

 

[andybond]

@andybond . Are you planning to make this car competiton only? I ask as my mate used to Tarmac Rally a Darrian with a Hewland TMT and Geartroniks kit. It was a superb piece of kit, and while it was possible to drive it on the road, it was not friendly. It was truly mindblowing how fast it could sprint to terminal velocity and back down, but it was only happy while either accelerating fast or slowing down fast. Trying to slow shift like you would do with a car on the road does not work out. Have you had some personal experience of this? You need to like stripping and building it as it will need periodic dog ring replacement to keep it working correctly depending on your driving style. Thats why roadcars have never went down this route as it is not friendly at all.
Seen a few pals go down this route on various cars over the years, but even on hillclimb/sprint cars most reverted to synchro as more user friendly if the car has to be road driven.

Hi Steve.

It will be my trackday toy.

I have taken some advice from the helpful chaps at geartronics who strongly recommend even when at 10/10ths not to flat shift on downchanges.

Quaife recommend every 2nd season or 12000mi whichever comes soonest for a box check.

I know about the transmittion shunt and the whining ( box not wallet ) but I am ok with this. Its truly an itch I would like to scratch. If its shocking, Ill sell it and go back to a H pattern c64.

 

[Steve Swan]

The shunt will loosen your teeth on the road. It is excellent at what it does best, maximum acceleration/ deceleration . What I would call normal driving does not work . No way you get 12000 miles out of the rings. Lewis or Max might manage 1200 cos their the best in the world, if you are a bit kak handed 200 miles. They can be very labour intensive once the corners are damaged it's game over.
Can you find someone with one and get a spin in it. Sometimes daydreams can become nightmares.....

 

[andybond]

The shunt will loosen your teeth on the road. It is excellent at what it does best, maximum acceleration/ deceleration . What I would call normal driving does not work . No way you get 12000 miles out of the rings. Lewis or Max might manage 1200 cos their the best in the world, if you are a bit kak handed 200 miles. They can be very labour intensive once the corners are damaged it's game over.
Can you find someone with one and get a spin in it. Sometimes daydreams can become nightmares.....

Sadly I cant find anyone who has one in.

They are rare as hens teeth!

 

[Steve Swan]

@andybond . here is a clip of Said Mate's Darrian.



Being an electronics man the sound feed is patched into the intercom , so the noise you hear on the video is what it is like in the car wearing a helmet and earplugs. To work well the gears have to be bloody close stacked I think Bruce had it geared for about 135mph at 8000-8500 in 6th . Like a motorcycle the gears have to be super close to minimise the speed differentials on the change . The blip on the downshift is provided by the Geartroniks kit and works beautifully when you're standing on the brake , but normal slowing down tends to produce a less than perfect downshift.
I am not explaining myself well here I know. The harder you drive the better it works - normal driving = does not work at all well. Esp slowing down