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Janspeed exhaust video
- Thread starter ColinG
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KTec couldn't even really be called an aftermarket exhaust in my opinion. Barely any louder than OEM. Only benefit I guess would be the shiny appearance, slightly larger tailpipes and the fact it won't rust. Other than that it's a total waste of money!!
Spike's, again all in my opinion, really can be called OEM plus a notch. In the cold light of day, like the standard system, it's not really that loud; you have to really work it up the rev range for it to give it's bark and even then it's a fairly moderate bark. Then again of course it would be because the pre-cats are left in and so engine noise will always be comprimised.
There are better systems out there in terms of noise quantity/quality but they are also more expensive. You pays your money I guess. I suppose the fact these have proved so popular is down to price really. They really are a vfm product :approve:
Spike's, again all in my opinion, really can be called OEM plus a notch. In the cold light of day, like the standard system, it's not really that loud; you have to really work it up the rev range for it to give it's bark and even then it's a fairly moderate bark. Then again of course it would be because the pre-cats are left in and so engine noise will always be comprimised.
There are better systems out there in terms of noise quantity/quality but they are also more expensive. You pays your money I guess. I suppose the fact these have proved so popular is down to price really. They really are a vfm product :approve:
taipan":3vpl1wut said:
Cost has nothing to do with the noise quality. Thats a farcical comment to make! Build quality; yes, sound; no.
The vee is all about induction note not the noise out the back, therefore a quietish exhaust is surely preferrable to most owners?!
It's a very debateable topic, i think the Quiksilver sounds horrible, it's also very expensive compared to other manufacturers.
Ali":19at3b1z said:
Errrrr. Cherry bomb vs Tubi. Unless you spec a titanium tubi they are both made of T304 stainless steel. Attach both to a four pot or a V type engine and I know which one would sound better...
Of course the quality of the workmanship between the two examples given above would no doubt differ but I bet you a hell of a lot more R&D expense has gone into air flow measurement AND sound produced on a top-end exhaust rather than a Halfords special. Increase in R&D expense = increase in Retail price. Almost always the case unless you're specifically loss making for strategic reasons e.g. to gain market share. Sound produced is no doubt one of the key factors when manufacturing an exhaust. It has to be. Manufacturers must know that the first thing people ask of a new exhaust is "how does it sound". Trawl back through the multitude of exhaust threads on here and other forums if you don't believe me! Why would someone outside the realms of a race team want an exhaust that improves airflow whilst sounding like a dribbly fart??
I'm not categorically saying that more £'s = more/better quality sound, just like I'm not saying that cheap tat can't sometimes produce a nice sound but I'd wager that the higher up the price scale you go the more likely the outcome is a better quality sound e.g. comparing like-for-like the quality and quantity of sound produced by an Orbisoud (£1k+) completely annihilates the KTec (c£500).
As previously said I think Spike's exhaust offers the best compromise currently between cost and sound, whilst being produced by a (fairly) reputable company with experience of vee products. Be interesting to have heard this as a rear silencer only though as I think it would sound very similar to the KTec i.e. not far off OEM!!
Convoluted answer to something which is very simple.
Do you like the sound and look of the exhaust? - Yes. Buy it. (75% of people will take this approach)
To counter your point on R&D i would bet my lunch that Renaultsport have spent more on R&D than the likes of Obsisoud! That applies right up the chain to the realms of supercars. It's a fine line between fit for purpose, legislation, mass production and a bit of "Does it sound good?"
Like i said previously it's all about preference, i certainly don't think the Orbisoud annihilated the Ktec on sound. I like it and put an offer in on one, but only because i can't buy another ktec and it was the same money!
Do you like the sound and look of the exhaust? - Yes. Buy it. (75% of people will take this approach)
To counter your point on R&D i would bet my lunch that Renaultsport have spent more on R&D than the likes of Obsisoud! That applies right up the chain to the realms of supercars. It's a fine line between fit for purpose, legislation, mass production and a bit of "Does it sound good?"
Like i said previously it's all about preference, i certainly don't think the Orbisoud annihilated the Ktec on sound. I like it and put an offer in on one, but only because i can't buy another ktec and it was the same money!
Interesting comments, had i put a price on all the dicking around and travelling whilst building the ph2 janspeed the price would have doubled.
the sound was a big criteria in the design and i think the lads at janspeed were gona throttle me having to do different mods then put it back , zoom up and down the road, then do it all again, and again, and again, but the result actually works, round town a small burble, motorways its quiet under 80, then all hell after then with enough noise for anyone in the uk, and it passed the noise regs, result!
the sound was a big criteria in the design and i think the lads at janspeed were gona throttle me having to do different mods then put it back , zoom up and down the road, then do it all again, and again, and again, but the result actually works, round town a small burble, motorways its quiet under 80, then all hell after then with enough noise for anyone in the uk, and it passed the noise regs, result!
Ali":1euerlg6 said:Convoluted answer to something which is very simple.
Do you like the sound and look of the exhaust? - Yes. Buy it. (75% of people will take this approach)
To counter your point on R&D i would bet my lunch that Renaultsport have spent more on R&D than the likes of Obsisoud! That applies right up the chain to the realms of supercars. It's a fine line between fit for purpose, legislation, mass production and a bit of "Does it sound good?"
Like i said previously it's all about preference, i certainly don't think the Orbisoud annihilated the Ktec on sound. I like it and put an offer in on one, but only because i can't buy another ktec and it was the same money!
Just my opinion on the exhausts I've had on the v6. Ktec first of all - too quiet and no difference to the oem one apart from looks. Quicksilver - too loud and boomy, not a great sound. Orbisoud is leagues ahead of the previous too both in build quality with separate chambers and sound. If they are good enough for the Renault sport trophy series they are good enough for me. Orbisoud do put a lot of time and effort in to the r&d side of things too.
Imho I have only seen/listened to four types, standard that is to quite for me and I normally go for a silent exhaust, OMG that was far to loud for my likings as I could hardly hear my passenger talk to me, k-tec really don't know what all the hype is about because it looks standard but a bit smaller and the noise almost sounded muted although still louder than standard but....... Am not just saying it because it what I have fitted but Spikes exhaust is truly great value for what the kit consists of and the noise, well that's something else! I don't have a problem with the box "hanging" down at the rear, looks purposeful! The only tiny thing that would make it better is, and its nothing to do with the exhaust, is a invoice for the history of the car a proof if to be sold later.
Have you done much running with the exhaust Colin?
Mine sounded like that to start with but with more reek put through it it sounds different, more of a deeper grumble.
Have you done much running with the exhaust Colin?
Mine sounded like that to start with but with more reek put through it it sounds different, more of a deeper grumble.
Matt":21gthq2q said:Ali":21gthq2q said:Convoluted answer to something which is very simple.
Do you like the sound and look of the exhaust? - Yes. Buy it. (75% of people will take this approach)
To counter your point on R&D i would bet my lunch that Renaultsport have spent more on R&D than the likes of Obsisoud! That applies right up the chain to the realms of supercars. It's a fine line between fit for purpose, legislation, mass production and a bit of "Does it sound good?"
Like i said previously it's all about preference, i certainly don't think the Orbisoud annihilated the Ktec on sound. I like it and put an offer in on one, but only because i can't buy another ktec and it was the same money!
Just my opinion on the exhausts I've had on the v6. Ktec first of all - too quiet and no difference to the oem one apart from looks. Quicksilver - too loud and boomy, not a great sound. Orbisoud is leagues ahead of the previous too both in build quality with separate chambers and sound. If they are good enough for the Renault sport trophy series they are good enough for me. Orbisoud do put a lot of time and effort in to the r&d side of things too.
Matt, it is louder than stock; marginally yes, but it is. Lets not misguide people. (Not that anyone can buy them now anyway)
Bear in mind your orbisoud is not the same design as the Trophy Series; but the quality is certainly there, i won't argue that.
I wouldn't think twice about going custom, to get the look, size and note i want, problem is, you'll only get two out of three guaranteed...Could sound crap. It's a risk.
http://www.rsfabrications.com/
One of the best i've seen! Build quality looks superbly. Not cheap though!
http://www.rsfabrications.com/?s=clio
One of the best i've seen! Build quality looks superbly. Not cheap though!
http://www.rsfabrications.com/?s=clio
