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Paula

Hi everyone,

I have just been browsing on the internet and found this wonderful film about the Renault 5.

http://www.renault.tv/en_GB/infotainmen ... -renault-5

It brought back so many memories and then I thought that I should join the R5 Gordini forum.

Although I no longer have a 5, I have a similar car in character.

It's a mint 56000 mile 1990 Rover Metro GTI 16v SPI in Flame Red.

Anyway where do I begin.

In 1975, my late father with my brother and I drove down to watch the Monaco Grand Prix which was won by Niki Lauda in his Ferrari.

On the way down, we kept being overtaken by Renault 5 TS's and considering that we were driving in an Aston Martin DB6, we were quite amazed.

So when we arrived back home that May, my father bought a nice new Dark Blue 5TS which my brother and I took to the South of France the following summer in 1976 for a holiday to get away from the scorching UK. The Registration number was KLC 954N, if I remember correctly.

Then in October 1976, we fancied a Bright Yellow 5TS. This colour was all the fashion then. It was new but had poor paintwork down one side. However Renault at Acton put it right by respraying the side in question. The registration number was SGN 944R

In the summer of 1977 my brother and I were travelling in his 1973 Glacier White MG MGB GT V8 down the Esher By Pass (A3) when a LHD French registered Renault 5 caught us up and passed at speed. We could not believe a 5 could go so quick, so we gave chase and saw on the back Renault 5 Alpine.... 8)

From that moment on we both said, " That is what we want ".

So a phone call was made to Renault at Acton the following day to only be told that this model was not available in the UK but they knew a guy called James Rawlings who ran an outfit called "Renaultsport" in Egham, Surrey.

So a few days later off we went to see James and he told us that he could convert our yellow 5TS into a 5 Alpine. We decided to go ahead and through that Autumn James imported the 5 Alpine engine, 5 speed gearbox, front bumper and built the car.

He modified the suspension and dampers and also had special Avons fitted with different hysteris rubber front and back to make it grip the road really well. These tyres were specially developed by Avon's competition department.

It was also painted with the 5 Alpine stripes and logos in red.

Then the fun really began and apart from a few LHD VW Golf GTI's, it was the fastest "Hot Hatch" on the UK roads and we had an awesome time.

In 1978, the late and wonderful John Bolster of 'Autosport' road tested the car and Roger Bell also tested it for 'Motor' magazine at the Army Test Track in Chobham, Surrey.

Both these journalists loved the car with it's great roadholding, handling and extra power.

As soon as these publications came out, the public began calling Acton and were asking " Can we have one ".

Of course the answer was still "No " and they referred all calls to James Rawlings.

However demand for the hot 5 increased that summer and autumn until "The Powers That Be" at Renault decided to bring in the 5 Alpine as the 5 Gordini, of course.

James told us that this was going to happen in the spring of 1979 and advised us to sell the converted 5 Alpine which we did and got all our money back for the conversion.... :)

He arranged for my brother and I to pick up the new black Gordini from the Renault Exportation in Paris. He worked it out that it would be slightly cheaper that way, so we brought it in on TT plates and had it re-registered upon arrival back in the UK. The reg no was BJM 553T, if I remember rightly.

Then in the spring of 1980, we bought our final new Red 5 Gordini with the nicer interior facia and seats. Reg HPK 64V. James fitted the same suspension and tyres that we had on the Alpine.

In May 1982, the car was sold as we had previouly imported in September 1981, a new red Alpine Renault A310 V6. This car was also collected from Paris and re-registered NAN 946X or 969X, I think.

It was sold in the Autumn of 1982 via Chequered Flag in Chiswick to the Secretary of the Alpine Renault Club. His name, I think, was Hector Wintle-Smith or similar. He re-registered it to ALP 310 I believe and we saw it at Brands Hatch in 1983.

So there we are.

I still have the road tests of the 5 Alpine and I can safely say that my brother and I were primarily responsible for the 5 Gordini's introduction to the UK market along with James Rawlings, of course.

Renault UK, we were told, had no plans whatsoever to import the hot 5 until these road tests created enough demand.

I would love to see another 5 Gordini again one day and maybe drive one.

Paula

PS. Here is a foto of my GTI alongside my 1997 Mazda MX-6

I am also the UK Events Moderator of http://www.mx6.com/ and http://www.mx6.com/forums/united-kingdom-ireland/ and here is my Mazda
 
Good Morning everyone,

Overnight I was remembering all the wonderful attributes of the 5.

Sadly my brother has passed on now as he would have loved to have seen all this.

During the period between selling the Renaultsport 5 Alpine in 1978 and getting the factory black Gordini in 1979, we bought a new Alfasud 1.5 in red.

Yes it was a very pretty car and handled very well but it's boxer engine although smooth and quite powerful was not a patch on the 5 Alpine's engine.

The Sud's engine would run out of puff towards it's rev limit whereas the 5's unit just went quicker and quicker the higher the revs would go up to around 7000 rpm.

We had some great adventures in the 5 Alpine with our annual summer trip to the South of France.

On the way down, I did a silly thing as I had driven overnight without sleep. Around Macon while my brother was in the loo, I began filling her up at an Autoroute service station. It said Gas and being a traveller to the USA, I thought that will do. But, of course, it was GasOil ( Diesel ) and fortunately I smelt it as it was going in.

Ackkkkkkkkkkkkkk !!!

Luckily, I was able to fill up the balance of the tank with petrol although we could have had the diesel drained as there was a drain plug at the bottom of the tank.

Back on the Autoroute, every time we swopped a cog, we would obliterate the carriageway with smoke .... :lol:

Then at every filling station, we would stop and put more petrol in to dilute the mixture further.

On the final stretches of our drive near Nice, there was an loud bang at high revs but the engine did not suffer although it stank of diesel throughout the fortnight's break.

On the way home we had wonderful battles with LHD Golf GTI's and usually won.

My Metro GTI with it's Motobuild "2" bore exhaust and Pipercross Air Filter which has raised power from 95bhp to 108 on the rolling road reminds me so much of our beloved 5's.

There were fantastic cars.

Have a nice day .... :)

Paula
 
Hi Mark,

Thank you hun.... :D

I can't believe that my Renault 5 saga started 34 year's ago ...... :roll:

It only seems like yesterday in many ways and the way that the time has flown by really scares me.

If I add on 34 years to my present age, I will be really ancient .... :wink:

Nite

Paula

PS. I have just been looking at your gorgeous 5 Gordini Turbo fotos. She/he is wonderful and it has given me withdrawal symptoms for HPK 64V my last red Gordini.

Have you had the car since new as it looks brand new?


Mark said:
Hi, thats an epic write up and a host of experiences! :D
 
nice story paula, quite something to be possibly the first alpine engined r5 owner in the country, that rawlins guy used to fit the bigger capacity renault engines into the 5s before the alpine engine became available..... i would of loved to of been around when all the new 5s were rolling out, the ts ect race scene seemed to of been quite something, good to here your story :)
 
mrdini said:
........ i would of loved to of been around when all the new 5s were rolling out, the ts ect race scene seemed to of been quite something, good to here your story :)

But You WERE :roll: :shock:
 
Phildini said:
mrdini said:
........ i would of loved to of been around when all the new 5s were rolling out, the ts ect race scene seemed to of been quite something, good to here your story :)

But You WERE :roll: :shock:
well yes i was 11 in 1983 and not quite thinking of renaults at that point.
 
Hiya,

Sorry that I have not replied much earlier but have been involved with lots of things.

One of which was telling the American Administrators over on mx6.com " To go and taking a running jump " and resigned as one of the UK moderators.

So they pettily banned me.

I was already a member of the UK's MX-6 Owners Club and it's much nicer there.

See: http://www.mx6oc.com/

That's right, when Roger Bell tested the 5 Alpine that day, he also tested Roger Cook's R16 engined 5TS in Silver.

It was a great conversion and was all torque as well as smoother and faster than my brother's and my 5 Alpine.

It had a luxurious all leather interior as well as electic windows etc etc.

It also had bullet proof glass in it which was just as well as a gangland member tried to kill Roger in London with a shotgun one day.

The glass saved him and it went back to James ( nickname Jay ) for repair.

I think the doors etc were armoured too but not 100% certain.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Cook_(journalist)

Take care

Paula

PS. I wonder if these two cars exist still?



mrdini said:
nice story paula, quite something to be possibly the first alpine engined r5 owner in the country, that rawlins guy used to fit the bigger capacity renault engines into the 5s before the alpine engine became available..... i would of loved to of been around when all the new 5s were rolling out, the ts ect race scene seemed to of been quite something, good to here your story :)
 
Hiya,

Many thanks for the invite .... 8)

I would love to have come but tomorrow I have friends coming over.

But we must all meet up soon.... :)

Sorry for the late reply but life, as always, has been manic for me at this time of year.

Take care

Paula

Goldini said:
There are a group of us meeting up in Kent on Sunday. Details on the main page, you are welcome to join us.
 
'In May 1982, the car was sold as we had previouly imported in September 1981, a new red Alpine Renault A310 V6. This car was also collected from Paris and re-registered NAN 946X or 969X, I think.
It was sold in the Autumn of 1982 via Chequered Flag in Chiswick to the Secretary of the Alpine Renault Club. His name, I think, was Hector Wintle-Smith or similar. He re-registered it to ALP 310 I believe and we saw it at Brands Hatch in 1983'

The guy was chairman of the Renault Owners Club, Hector Mackenzie-Wintle (also wrote a renault book).
And in 2000 I bought from him. It's SORN at the moment ALP 676. Still in West london.
8)
 
Hi Andy,

Thought I would pop in here as it's about time I caught up on all the news. Last month I was at the NEC's Classic Car Show and popped on to the Alpine Renault stand.

Will post the link to all my fotos in a moment.

I was chatting to a lady on the stand and she thought that Hector still had my old car and his son was driving it now !!!

She took my contact details down as I would love to see her again.

I gather that the front was damaged but is all repaired once more.

Take care and Happy Christmas

Paula

Alpineandy said:
'In May 1982, the car was sold as we had previouly imported in September 1981, a new red Alpine Renault A310 V6. This car was also collected from Paris and re-registered NAN 946X or 969X, I think.
It was sold in the Autumn of 1982 via Chequered Flag in Chiswick to the Secretary of the Alpine Renault Club. His name, I think, was Hector Wintle-Smith or similar. He re-registered it to ALP 310 I believe and we saw it at Brands Hatch in 1983'

The guy was chairman of the Renault Owners Club, Hector Mackenzie-Wintle (also wrote a renault book).
And in 2000 I bought from him. It's SORN at the moment ALP 676. Still in West london.
8)
 
Hiya,

You are welcome... :)

It's so much fun chatting about our cars.

Take care and have a great Christmas

Paula

tarquini said:
thanks for sharing your memories Paula, it was fascinating to read.
 
There we go .. :)

I think that the lady I chatted to is sitting down on the right.

and here's the link to all my fotos of the show:

http://s375.photobucket.com/albums/oo19 ... irmingham/

i375.photobucket.com_albums_oo198_PaulaHam_Classic_20Car_20Shocb72175291f0f6ea9f94504e4d910f1b.webp



Paula said:
Hi Andy,

Thought I would pop in here as it's about time I caught up on all the news. Last month I was at the NEC's Classic Car Show and popped on to the Alpine Renault stand.

Will post the link to all my fotos in a moment.

I was chatting to a lady on the stand and she thought that Hector still had my old car and his son was driving it now !!!

She took my contact details down as I would love to see her again.

I gather that the front was damaged but is all repaired once more.

Take care and Happy Christmas

Paula

Alpineandy said:
'In May 1982, the car was sold as we had previouly imported in September 1981, a new red Alpine Renault A310 V6. This car was also collected from Paris and re-registered NAN 946X or 969X, I think.
It was sold in the Autumn of 1982 via Chequered Flag in Chiswick to the Secretary of the Alpine Renault Club. His name, I think, was Hector Wintle-Smith or similar. He re-registered it to ALP 310 I believe and we saw it at Brands Hatch in 1983'

The guy was chairman of the Renault Owners Club, Hector Mackenzie-Wintle (also wrote a renault book).
And in 2000 I bought from him. It's SORN at the moment ALP 676. Still in West london.
8)
 
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