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Front discs from Apec

Hi Guys

We now have a set of the apec front discs (DSK2779) in stock here at RPD.

I can do them for the price you have said on here - £47.70 + VAT each. The pair Inc VAT would be £114.48.

We offer free delivery in the UK.

I am also in the process of speaking to Renault UK to let them know the price difference between the discs when ordered from Renault and when ordered from Apec.

Will let you know the outcome.

We still do have the Renault front discs in stock (6025013026) - £385.75 Inc Vat.

Regards

Paul Temperton
RPD
[email protected]
 
renaultpartsdirect":1iqupo9a said:
Hi Guys

We now have a set of the apec front discs (DSK2779) in stock here at RPD.

I am also in the process of speaking to Renault UK to let them know the price difference between the discs when ordered from Renault and when ordered from Apec.
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If Renault can come down on their price that would be good. Take it they aren't the same discs as APEC then, Paul?
 
From reading reviews on Apec discs I don't think they're quite up to the AP racing standards.

"They are an every day brake disc, ideal for your 'every day' shopping trollies"
 
To be fair, if they wear or need replacing at 3 times the rate a stock OEM disk would, your still quids in. They maybe aren't the finest of material but I doubt they are chocolate teapots.
 
James":3mj1gcpz said:
From reading reviews on Apec discs I don't think they're quite up to the AP racing standards.

"They are an every day brake disc, ideal for your 'every day' shopping trollies"
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i think you are being unfair on these james, i did get involved with apec as did sam with these, there is no difference in quality to the std disc.
the standard disc is just that, standard, not , as folk believe, some super fab piece of race engineering! it says AP on the CALIPER....right, not the disc. if the originals were to a higher race spec why do they wear out so quick??
so think about it,great calipers on standard discs, looks good and still cheap to manufacture, ignore the retail price THEY ARE STD TYPE DISCS.
 
renaultpartsdirect":vrz8ou2q said:
Hi Guys

We now have a set of the apec front discs (DSK2779) in stock here at RPD.

I can do them for the price you have said on here - £47.70 + VAT each. The pair Inc VAT would be £114.48.

We offer free delivery in the UK.

I am also in the process of speaking to Renault UK to let them know the price difference between the discs when ordered from Renault and when ordered from Apec.

Will let you know the outcome.

We still do have the Renault front discs in stock (6025013026) - £385.75 Inc Vat.

Regards

Paul Temperton
RPD
[email protected]
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Are these on the site Paul?
 
I didn't write the internet reviews Spike.

Are you saying the Vee discs are not AP or they are AP but a lower spec disc?

AP Disc Spec

Having read Stephens post I browsed the net to see if others thought these are low grade.

renaultalpine":21izpihj said:
They are a low grade disc though but the GTA ones seem to work OK in everyday use.
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AFAIK the quality of a brake disc is largely down to the quality of the metal and casting and this depends on the foundry where it is sourced from.

I don't know if APEC use the same foundry as AP for example. The front rotors in the two piece kit do come from the same foundry as AP. We are not allowed to say they are the same as AP but we can say the metal is of the same quality.

Cheaply cast rotors can overheat 'blue' and/or warp quickly. This is more common with smaller overstressed disks that are already on the limit in OEM form. The Clio V6 disks are of a sufficiently large size that it is going to take more punishment to get them to overheat / warp than a smaller disk, so there may never be a problem with them in everyday use.

What I think James and some other people are worried about is that given the same punishment as an OEM AP disk (and they are AP sourced disks) will the APEC disk stand up to e.g. track day use in the same way as the OEM disk. If the metal is of the same quality and they are otherwise identical then yes they will. This is what we need to establish.

Just because a product is made of metal and is of exactly the same dimensions as that from another manufacturer does not necessarily mean it will be of exactly the same quality, but it could be.

Next week I will take a disk to the guys that make the two piece kits and get them to examine it. Let's all hope the quality is the same or close as it's a great price point. If not it may still be a good solution for someone that is more interested in showing their car than driving it at 110% all the time. Even if the quality is not as good they may still be better than badly scored or corroded OEM disks and would also still be a great upgrade for 5 x 108 fitment Renaults with much smaller diameter disks as standard.
 
I do agree that the apec discs are probably of lower quality material than AP two piece discs, but that is NOT the question. what is trying to be established is the quality against the STANDARD RENAULT disc, do folk really think that the AP RACING discs are the same quality and material as the AP LOCKHEED discs supplied through trade and retail parts suppliers? after all the austin maxi used an AP LOCKHEED system, does anyone want to transplant one of them?
also as for track use, occasional use on the std setup is ok, but anyone who has set ANY vehicle up for constant track use realises the limitations of the std brake setup, this includes the clio v6. and for constant use i mean ONE TRACKDAY, not one lap.
looking at these discs from APEC there is not a problem with them, see the specs they are made to on the web site. i think the major confusion here is the price renault have been getting away with against what they are really worth!
 
Some very valid points being made here..

Personally, as someone with minimal mechanical knowledge, it still seems unclear as to the quality of these APEC discs compared to the stock OEM, AP discs fitted to the car by Renault. I dont think anyone would consider the OEM AP discs to be the same as AP race discs. or indeed the group buy 2 peice set up. If Stephen is getting one of the APEC discs analised, I'm very keen to see the results!
 
Guillaume":1ry66m5j said:
Some very valid points being made here..

Personally, as someone with minimal mechanical knowledge, it still seems unclear as to the quality of these APEC discs compared to the stock OEM, AP discs fitted to the car by Renault. I dont think anyone would consider the OEM AP discs to be the same as AP race discs. or indeed the group buy 2 peice set up. If Stephen is getting one of the APEC discs analised, I'm very keen to see the results!
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I00% AGREE :approve: look at the iso 9000 spec and if they are tuv approved.
they will never beat a two piece setup apart from price. (and no, i dont work for APEC!)
also, i think you would be suprised about your mechanical knowedge, i have read your posts and believe me, you are certainly in the top half if not top quarter with mechanical understanding. have you been in halfords lately? most drivers nowadays cannot change a bulb!
 
I think there we be a lot of us keen to see the results considering the price :) even if they are not up to OEM spec they would more than likely make sense over paying Robbing Renault prices :rollseyes: (as long as you don't want to do track days of course)

Phill
 
If the APEC discs fit - have we actually had a set fitted yet ? Then I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be suitable for normal use - is this just an AP snob thing at the moment (I say that tongue in cheek) ...

Most people would consider brake upgrades for performance use, at least the pads ... If you have harder pads then your discs wear more quickly for example ... If discs are showing enough wear with OEM pads to need replacement at 20k miles then I would not be too comfortable with the OEM quality let alone anything else ...

I am sure they will have to meet safety and materials standards and APEC are a major supplier. So to what degree they are 'comparible' to the AP OEM disc may be irrelevant but maybe the information from Stephen will give some more detail.

Martin
 
To answer the question from Matt, I will not be putting the APEC discs on the site but will have some here if anyone wants to order from us. We just thought it would be easier for you guys to order through us than having to worry about sourcing yourself etc.

If you did want to order please contact me on any of the contact details below.

You can also PM me your number and I will call you if that is easier.

I have Renault coming in the 1st week of Feb so I have sent our local rep the price difference and we will be talking about it when he is here.

Some great info on here guys.

Cheers

Paul Temperton
[email protected]
01793-645650 - Direct parts line so ask for me.
 
This forum and thread is really helping to focus attention on discs so all good stuff, especially if owner representation is made to Renault via the likes of Paul along with alternate part sources procured by Sam ...

Martin
 
mine arrived today, after a look all is well even says AP on them. look to be as good if not better than oem. i think its fair to say that the high price charged by reno is only because they have had us cornered, be interesting to see if the price does plummet on oe discs just to see if i'm right.
oh, and mine do say AP on them so all is well, only it also says EC as well.
 
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