arno samimi
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First V6 in UK with a RSC Competition Pro coilover kit inside.
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First V6 in UK with...
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If you have to ask… you can’t afford!boccarp":3iae9yxo said:
https://www.rscenter.ch/en/products/rsc ... -coilover/
KW is a great choice.
arno samimi
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boccarp":10i16vcw said:
For the V6, the kit costs chf 3680.-.
The RSC competition coilovers are not at all comparable with the KW V3.
The damper technology, the damping performance, the setting options and the quality is superior to the KW.
The KW V3 only has "thin" 2-pipe dampers, which are too weak in most situations. The selected spring rates as well.
The result is a nervous dampening property.
The RSC with its double piston monotube damper with a large piston area is a lot more efficient in controlling the springs.
They also dampen progressively, making the vehicle a lot quieter.
That is exactly what the V6 need with their short wheelbases, the very light front axle and heavy rear axle.
A V6 with an RSC drives like a much more balanced vehicle. And thus offers more security. In all points, an OEM and even a KW V3 cannot keep up.
There are also many setting options. The basic set-up corresponds to Road & Track, which pays off on every meter in everyday life or also with fast driving / track days.
Read the unfiltered customer feedback about the RSC coilovers here:
https://www.rscenter.ch/en/products/rsc ... feedbacks/
arno samimi
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Kett":2s0vy3n4 said:
moktabe":2s0vy3n4 said:
I think everyone can decide for themselves what they can and cannot afford.
And as long as you have not compared both coilovers fairly yourself, I would not give an opinion.
If KW also offered a monotube system with all the same features, you would be amazed at the even higher price.
But they prefer to use inexpensive mass-produced goods for a high profit and allow the customer to compromise and cut back on what is possible.
Anyone who loves his V6 saves him from such "standard products". My opinion.
Before I developed the RSC coilovers, I used KW as a starting product myself. But I was never satisfied with it.
I had to change every KW of my RS cars afterwards so that I was reasonably satisfied.
I have incorporated these years of experience into my own product in order to offer an "all in one Road & Track coilover"
for all cars (as far as possible) in order to spare my customers exactly this dissatisfaction when buying a coilover.
As they say? Who buys cheap buys twice!
And as for the price for you Uk's:
You can owe the high prices to your high taxes, i.e. your state. And not the companies that sell their products.
arno samimi
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mossyv6":37av1vjq said:
One of my customer from London.
arno samimi":a2j0h2qh said:
I’ve always assumed it was the unhelpful CHF exchange rate that hiked up the RSC prices. Useful that you could share the technical differences in the product specifications.
Bottom line is that any after-market support is always welcome. Koni/Renault have certainly not been able to do so with the OE damper products.
arno samimi
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Kett":9kfxljt7 said:
it's a mixture of both. exchange rate £ / CHF and the high UK taxes (21%). Here in Switzerland this is only 7.7%.
Nowadays one cannot afford to offer a product of the same quality or features with large price differences. That will always be revealed.
Price differences for the same product always includes a difference in equipment, quality and service.
Sometimes this is not immediately recognizable and you have to take a closer look.
Chris V6 255
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A guy called Jason. I stalk him on Instagram [emoji1787]mossyv6":2pfm2fsa said:
He has a seriously impressive collection of cars [emoji1303]
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arno samimi
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James":3a992to7 said:I hope you sell more of these via v6clio.net. The 5% bunce will come in very handy to us.
5%... :rofl:
Users will only report, when there are no more any OEM parts or kits from other suppliers. Then suddenly it's the best...
arno samimi
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Chris V6 255":3n62dz2g said:
Yes right, It's him.
I would Stick with KW if you want to go the coil over route however I suspect in years to come a lot of owners will want to take their Vees back to standard anyway as is the trend for rare & desirable vehicles when they get to 20 + years old.
The standard Clio V6 Koni dampers (struts) CAN be stripped, serviced & rebuilt which does improve the Vees handling. Nearly all owners with standard suspension will be running on the originals fitted in the factory as new ones have been NLA from Renault for many years so those standard units will definitely benefit from a rebuild. Nearly all standard road car struts are factory sealed & can not be rebuilt so normally it's not even an option to rebuild standard units for most road cars, luckily for us Vee owners Renault fitted struts that can be taken apart [smilie=yay.gif] .
I had my standard phase 1 Vee struts rebuilt & there was a noticeable improvement in high speed stability & ride quality, the handling & ride degrade over years so it's hard to notice until you have them rebuilt back to factory specs. As an added bonus, the internal bump & rebound valving can also be changed to give different characteristics which can yield more gains.
Unless you're doing serious track driving where fully adjustable coilovers come into their own (quick ride height & valving adjustment) then i would put your money into servicing your standard units, servicing them will cost around £800 for the set. If they have surface corrosion then they can be bead blasted & powder coated / painted while they are apart so will look brand new when finished. :approve:
I highly recommend contacting Ian Gardner at IG Racing on 07967300537 (official Koni agents) for a superb rebuild & development service for your original Koni Clio V6 struts :race:
The standard Clio V6 Koni dampers (struts) CAN be stripped, serviced & rebuilt which does improve the Vees handling. Nearly all owners with standard suspension will be running on the originals fitted in the factory as new ones have been NLA from Renault for many years so those standard units will definitely benefit from a rebuild. Nearly all standard road car struts are factory sealed & can not be rebuilt so normally it's not even an option to rebuild standard units for most road cars, luckily for us Vee owners Renault fitted struts that can be taken apart [smilie=yay.gif] .
I had my standard phase 1 Vee struts rebuilt & there was a noticeable improvement in high speed stability & ride quality, the handling & ride degrade over years so it's hard to notice until you have them rebuilt back to factory specs. As an added bonus, the internal bump & rebound valving can also be changed to give different characteristics which can yield more gains.
Unless you're doing serious track driving where fully adjustable coilovers come into their own (quick ride height & valving adjustment) then i would put your money into servicing your standard units, servicing them will cost around £800 for the set. If they have surface corrosion then they can be bead blasted & powder coated / painted while they are apart so will look brand new when finished. :approve:
I highly recommend contacting Ian Gardner at IG Racing on 07967300537 (official Koni agents) for a superb rebuild & development service for your original Koni Clio V6 struts :race:
arno samimi
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That V6 owners prefer to keep OEM is understandable and completely ok. That you can revise shock absorbers and change the inside as well.
You're not telling anything new.
But you can change the OEM damper as much as you want.
You will never come close to the damping performance / set up of a progressive double piston monotube damper with a piston diameter of 44mm. No way.
The other adjustment options are not even mentioned,
such as adjustment window adjustment of bump and rebound, stabilizer height (Ph2), adjustable camber plates, car height separate from the spring preload etc., etc.
As already mentioned, the negative driving characteristics of the V6 (the fact that it doesn't even have a stabilizer on the rear axle says a lot)
can largely disappear with such an RSC.
The V6 is no longer recognizable, and driving pleasure increases immensely.
Regardless of whether the car height is set in the OEM height or a little lower. Everything works.
But as it is in many things with humans: What the farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat...
Maybe you also know the saying in the UK...
You're not telling anything new.
But you can change the OEM damper as much as you want.
You will never come close to the damping performance / set up of a progressive double piston monotube damper with a piston diameter of 44mm. No way.
The other adjustment options are not even mentioned,
such as adjustment window adjustment of bump and rebound, stabilizer height (Ph2), adjustable camber plates, car height separate from the spring preload etc., etc.
As already mentioned, the negative driving characteristics of the V6 (the fact that it doesn't even have a stabilizer on the rear axle says a lot)
can largely disappear with such an RSC.
The V6 is no longer recognizable, and driving pleasure increases immensely.
Regardless of whether the car height is set in the OEM height or a little lower. Everything works.
But as it is in many things with humans: What the farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat...
Maybe you also know the saying in the UK...
