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CarPro Fixer Polish - An Unplanned Review

LowiePete

Well-Known Member
Hello Folks,

Introduction

Instead of following the usual review format, this is a report of the first day of
a detail, by hand, of an almost 14 year old Toyota Rav4. I took on this detail
with the car sight unseen, so my planned approach had been to jet-wash, then
ONR bucketless wash followed by a clay cloth clean. Having got that far, it was
clear that the quite fixed water-spotting was going to spoil it.

So, instead of going to CP Essence it was a case of breaking into my bottle of
Fixer. However, once the spotting became evident my first reaction was to warn
Adey, the car's owner, that I doubted that we could do much to rectify it as
it usually requires a machine. Here's what was revealed after the paint had
been clay cloth cleaned... :doublesho

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That is definitely the most severe case I've ever experienced and it did put a
dampener on my expectations of the day. The patterns do look very similar to
those created when a clay cloth hits a “dry spot”, however, no such event took
place here. Anyone doing damage over an area that large should revisit both
their clay cloth technique _and_ especially its lubrication!

Prelude

I really enjoy the prospect of bringing up a car of this age, so despite the
state of the car on my arrival, I'd been looking forward to today. The next
7 pictures show the car ahead of its jet-wash...

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Preparation

The plan for today had been...
  • Jet wash
  • Bucketless ONR Wash
  • Clay cloth with ONR
  • Apply CP Essence
  • Apply CP Essence Plus

It became apparent not long into the clay cloth clean that there were a few
problems to resolve with this car, not least this...

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Despite my initial reservations expressed to Adey, and ever the optimist, I
was glad I'd brought my bottle of CP Fixer with me. Talk about an "in at the
deep end" test! I rarely let things get in the way by sparing, however if it
hadn't worked, I wouldn't have been too down-hearted by the product.
After all, it was a huge ask of a new to me product.

I had ordered a polish from Craig at CarPro, notifying him that I wanted to
work by hand and asking that if Fixer better fitted the bill, to substitute it.

The Main Event

So, a firm white waffle pad was dunked into some fairly hot water to help
soften it, then given a good squeezing-out to get the pad lightly dampened.
Being that this was a tuition detail, I'd already surprised Adey with several
little knacks of doing things, but the biggest surprise was to see his face when
I applied just 3 split-pea size blobs into the waffle surface.


Trying to get 50/50 photos of the difference proved elusive, so I apologise
for the poor quality of these two photos...

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So, the success of this meant an extra step and a good couple of hours of
extra work. With the basic shine, water-spotting notwithstanding, proving to
be looking very promising, so be it.

An Unexpected Surprise

On my arrival I remarked over the condition of the headlights. As Adey is in
the business, I was informed that they would only be an MOT failure if the
UV clouding interfered with the beam pattern hitting the road. Having spent
£400 on a new headlamp unit and new gas bulbs just recently, this wasn't
necessarily good news. The UV damage was atop the unit.

However, again, ever the optimist, I set to with the CP Fixer on these and I
could not believe my luck! I'll let the pictures tell their own story...

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The stainless steel bumper piece also came up well with Fixer. By this time
its pretty clear that Adey is tickled pink.

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So, To The Afternoon

Having left both my wheel cleaner and tyre treatment at home, tackling the
wheels was one of the first jobs of the afternoon. I have to admit that no CP
products were used for this task. Once washed, the wheels were given a coat
of wheel wax. What I learned was that there was very little iron sintering
from Pagid brake pads.

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One aspect of this detail was the amount of spotting on the roof. Given the
fact that we were getting rid of most of it, Adey was spurred on to tackle
this hard to reach area. I'm remiss in not taking any photos, but it would
have stood out like a sore thumb if he hadn't had a go.

While CP Fixer did a fantastic job by hand, I would not claim that the spotting
had been entirely removed. That would indeed still require a machine, but I
don't think I've encountered a polish that is so easy to use with what I think
is an astonishing finish.

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Next came tackling the spotting on the windscreen. You can see what we
were up against in the right hand corner of this 50/50 shot...

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Once completed, the clean outside of the screen shouted the grubbiness of
its interior, so that was tackled quite pronto. These last five images show the
results of day 1...

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At this point, only the windscreen and front door windows have been cleaned.

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Conclusions

I can only sum up today as one of surprise and sheer delight at the outcome!
Although CP Fixer was in my armoury, I had not set out with any intentions
of using it. If I'm truthful, I fully expected having to contend with accepting
the water-spotting and having to make the kind of sighing noises to express
my disappointment.

None of it! I was certainly not prepared for what happened. While the
potion did spread well initially, I found it really beneficial that the pads
had been softened and lightly dampened. A small bucket of fairly hot
water to hand for rinsing out is a must. The pads need a good squeeze
to render them just lightly dampened.

One thing of note was to not apply too much pressure. There was simply no
need to work it as if you were dealing with a rubbing compound.

There is no question the CP Fixer will be part of my basic armoury for the
foreseeable future.

Where Do Buy It?

CarPro Fixer is available direct from Craig Hall, the UK distributor and other
approved UK distributors. It's available in 3 bottle sizes, from £10.99. Prices
exclude P+P.

The bottle I received had the funnel dispenser top which makes dispensing the tiny dots of polish
very much easier to control. If you apply too much to the pad, you _will_ work against yourself.
Less is more and little & often are your maxims to follow.


Acknowledgements

My thanks to Craig Hall for his usual ebullient helpfulness, considering I had
initially ordered the wrong product. He's always a positive resource even
when I ask either awkward or dumb questions. ;)


Regards,
Steve
 
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Some clay cloth marring for example.

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Are you certain that it was water spotting?
All I'm seeing is marring from the clay cloth?
It's not uncommon, or unexpected. Very easy to rectify.
Two points; the marring appeared after the bucketless wash, as the paint was
being dried, and the windscreen was not given a clay cloth treatment, yet also
displays identical patterns.

So, it's definitely water spotting. Bear in mind also that our prevailing weather
comes from the West and any dampness picks up all kinds of crud and acids
before dumping it on us. I can spend hours preparing for a show, only to see
my work undermined by overnight weather. By 8am in summer, that'll be at
least 4 hours of strong sunshine.

It's caused by parking a car facing SSE with the sun baking on salty dew with
fine beads. Over a few days it builds into a crust as I've described a few times in
the disabled detailing thread on DW. I had identical marring on my car, only it
took "the lights of doom" in a detailer's studio for them to show. I simply put it
down to parking a car outside in a seaside town.

Removal of the marks was not entirely achieved, as I alluded to, and getting to
the point we did could not be described as easy. We both had sore shoulders
when we turned-to this morning. Having been a user of a clay cloth for the best
part of 4 years now, I'd be wholly ashamed to create such marring, let alone
post pics for everyone to laugh at online...

Regards,
Steve
 
The windows were a given. You can easily see in the phobos that it's water etching.

There's nothing to be ashamed of by causing marring with a clay cloth, mitt or even a clay bay. It happens from time to time. Anyone that says otherwise isn't being entirely truthful.
Several detailers I know have shunned the clay cloths now and others will only use them before machine polishing. They work through abrasion as well as the stickiness of the pad, so marring can be forgiven.

Just for arguments sake.
This was sent by a very, very highly regarded detailer. They posted it for the world to see also.
The same marring is present after using a clay cloth.
No user error. It just can happen :)

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Just for arguments sake.
This was sent by a very, very highly regarded detailer. They posted it for the world to see also.
The same marring is present after using a clay cloth.
No user error. It just can happen :)
Well, it's surprising how many detailers will use a shampoo as a lubricant, and
swear by it which makes me shudder as it's probably only the bubbles providing
a cushion. It's also amazing how many people don't take _that_ much care
during the cleaning stages, simply because of their belief in the correction by
machine later. I've had a couple of people admit that at my detailing days.

As this was a tuition detail, I had to be on my best practices behaviour with a
chap paying very close attention to both what he did, and to what I was up to.
His interest was hugely complimentary to me as he absorbed all the new tips
he was being shown.

I know that many people still have reservations over using ONR, but I have
yet to fault it as either a cleaner or clay / clay cloth lubricant. That picture
you posted, how much of that was existing damage? That wasn't all caused
by a clay cloth clean, surely?

Regards,
Steve
 
Oh, no. The marring from the cloth will be the almost blotted look - it kind of catches the top of the orange peel in the paint.
The swirls and scratches would have been present before any work had started.
 
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