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Anonymous
yea they are standard thinking about replacing the standard exhaust wat would you rather torque or power!!
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What I mean is that a lot of diesels will be quicker at low revs than a standard Vee because they have more torque at low revs. Once they run out of torque at 4000 revs and have to shift to a higher gear you fly by with your higher BHP in the high revs.
Just compare the torque and BHP charts of a VW Golf 2.0tdi and a Vee make 1:
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/golfmk520tdi.pdf
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/cliov6.pdf
As you can see in those charts torqe and power are somehow connected to each other with the multiplication of revs. As you get low power numbers at low revs, torque is more important. As the revs go high, torque goes down a bit, but power is more important now.
I hope you understand where I'm getting at.
If you are generally talking about more torque, it means more torque in the lower revs (for caravan pullers or for lazy drivers who don't want to shift). Talking about more BHP, it means more torque in the higher revs, where you want them if you want to be if you want to be faster when "racing". [smilie=drunken_smilie1.gif]
Just compare the torque and BHP charts of a VW Golf 2.0tdi and a Vee make 1:
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/golfmk520tdi.pdf
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/cliov6.pdf
As you can see in those charts torqe and power are somehow connected to each other with the multiplication of revs. As you get low power numbers at low revs, torque is more important. As the revs go high, torque goes down a bit, but power is more important now.
I hope you understand where I'm getting at.
If you are generally talking about more torque, it means more torque in the lower revs (for caravan pullers or for lazy drivers who don't want to shift). Talking about more BHP, it means more torque in the higher revs, where you want them if you want to be if you want to be faster when "racing". [smilie=drunken_smilie1.gif]
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Anonymous
Hmmm, I'll beware not to have a stoplightsprint in the future when a TDI pulls up next to me, I won't stand a chance..........the first feet..............
Will it help if I put gazoline in the Vee instead of normal 98???
@TWR:
I think you will even need a bigger Motherf@#$king turbo as you already have now to win against a diesel.
@MikeT:
You will be the laughing stock in the diesel communitiy!!
Will it help if I put gazoline in the Vee instead of normal 98???
@TWR:
I think you will even need a bigger Motherf@#$king turbo as you already have now to win against a diesel.
@MikeT:
You will be the laughing stock in the diesel communitiy!!
deep breath.....
Engines produce torque not Power. Power is ONLY a calculation from torque (measured at a given engine speed). Thus they are both related, but the physical property is torque.
A high torque low revving diesel will NOT out accelerate a lower torque but higher powered petrol car as the pertrol car runs lower gearing.
BHP is what matters for speed which is why it is used.
Think about it like this.
What is better for acceleration?
300NM @ 4000 RPM
or
600NM @ 2000 RPM
You may think the second but your wrong!
The first vehicle runs gearing twice as low to equalise the acceleration.
Thats why you use power which is torque * engine speed. Thus the two above are the same.
You can make a car accelerate faster by getting more torque at a given rpm (same gearing), or keeping up the torque to higher revs and running lower gearing.
No one will see which way MikeT went
as he runs low gears and has high power and torque! :lol: :badgrin:
Peter
Engines produce torque not Power. Power is ONLY a calculation from torque (measured at a given engine speed). Thus they are both related, but the physical property is torque.
A high torque low revving diesel will NOT out accelerate a lower torque but higher powered petrol car as the pertrol car runs lower gearing.
BHP is what matters for speed which is why it is used.
Think about it like this.
What is better for acceleration?
300NM @ 4000 RPM
or
600NM @ 2000 RPM
You may think the second but your wrong!
The first vehicle runs gearing twice as low to equalise the acceleration.
Thats why you use power which is torque * engine speed. Thus the two above are the same.
You can make a car accelerate faster by getting more torque at a given rpm (same gearing), or keeping up the torque to higher revs and running lower gearing.
No one will see which way MikeT went
as he runs low gears and has high power and torque! :lol: :badgrin:Peter
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Anonymous
Ok peter, that's a relieve then!! and.....keep on breathing.
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Anonymous
Hmm, let me put some more oil on the fire,
Ever tried to sprint against an empty truck with no lorry attached?
It only does 2800rpm maximum, has about 30000 gears, and if it uses them, you would have trouble outrunning them.......the first 10 meters. [smilie=bunny_4.gif] [smilie=bunny_4.gif] [smilie=bowdown.gif]
Ever tried to sprint against an empty truck with no lorry attached?
It only does 2800rpm maximum, has about 30000 gears, and if it uses them, you would have trouble outrunning them.......the first 10 meters. [smilie=bunny_4.gif] [smilie=bunny_4.gif] [smilie=bowdown.gif]
harry":16xs3tez said:
Same rules apply. Its physics old boy. There are no exceptions!
Assuming you mean a articulated truck with no trailer its hardly surprising they can be quick off the line. They have the power to pull a heavy trailer and as you say low gears. BUT who cares anyway? I'll keep my Vee!
Peter
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Anonymous
@Peter, I didn't expect an answer, I don't even know why you'd bother answering to my stupid remarks, I was just kidding around. [smilie=badpc.gif]
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