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weight of cliov6

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Why is the little car heavy for its size ? Not sure wether the engine block is ally or not but what else pushes up the weight ? My tvr seac was 11055kg and it was a bigger car than the clio by miles !
 
Seriously though, we'd all give our hind-teeth to save weight on the package.
Aftermarket seats and induction are a good start...

I think the problem stems from the concept being a 'conversion' rather than ground/up design.
 
The tvr uses a space frame chassis and a bobby completly made from fibreglass hence its good weight. There is a lot of steel in the rear of the clio to locate the engine and gearbox. The running gear is quite agricultural. All the plumbing runs from end to end. The engine and box does weigh a fair old amount as does the exhaust system.
 
So if like many of us you fit recaro seats KW suspension janspeed exhausts that must shed a few kilos?
 
WONGY":obspy8af said:
So if like many of us you fit recaro seats KW suspension janspeed exhausts that must shed a few kilos?

Yeah for sure but at the bottom of each coilover is a heavy bearing hub, at the end of each Janspeed is a pair of heavy cast manifolds and beneath each seat is a heavy carpet. How many benefits you want depends on how far you want to go I suppose.
 
How far much from the starting weight could realistically be saved by somebody serious on weight saving?
 
Snails":3nxj2zmw said:
How far much from the starting weight could realistically be saved by somebody serious on weight saving?

Read Max's thread in special project cars... sadly the project met it's demise.
 
What could be taken out of the v6 to reduce weight down to around 1200kg without stuff that's needed to drive the car ?
 
The trophy were somewhere close to 1000kgs, if your starting with a phase one I would imagine 1200kgs is possible, replace the whole exhaust and ditch the collector box, delete air con and all associated pipes, ditch the chairs for something ultra light, ditch the soundproofing, lightweight bonnet & tailgate, coilovers, magnesium wheels.. Should do the job! Would go like stink!

Could delete fog lights, transmission tunnel, headlining and carpets, but wouldn't make much weight saving and would compromise use.
 
ddouble":19l4r8rt said:
The trophy were somewhere close to 1000kgs, if your starting with a phase one I would imagine 1200kgs is possible, replace the whole exhaust and ditch the collector box, delete air con and all associated pipes, ditch the chairs for something ultra light, ditch the soundproofing, lightweight bonnet & tailgate, coilovers, magnesium wheels.. Should do the job! Would go like stink!

Could delete fog lights, transmission tunnel, headlining and carpets, but wouldn't make much weight saving and would compromise use.


Interesting stuff !
 
There is one way of practically reducing the weight. You take every single component on the car, study them, reduce the weight as much as you can and then refit. Average 10% on each part and there is effectively a 25hp gain. This works very well but you essentially take the car back to a rolling chassis which = much time.
 
Back to the Colin Chapman edicts, 'build in lightness', Brett is right, strip car, chuck away what you dont want or need, underseal, carpets, head lining, air con, door cards, window lifts, etc etc and every thing left you lighten as much as possible (lotus 49s were notoriously weak but when they held together they were unbeatable! Possible to change materials such as glass for perspex, aluminium for steel, drill holes etc plus for the porkers amongst us (these days I certainly include myself!) a regime of bacon butty abstinence can equally help! What is the point in shaving 50 grammes from a pedal when the driver could shed comfortably 20-30 KG!! Power to weight is always the way to assess performance, more power and less weight equals oomph!! Also reducing reciprocating masses improves spin up speeds hence accelleration!
 
james":rx00ifio said:
or you could load it up with even more luxuries and weight, and be very happy with it. :race:

I'm reliably informed that: x2 slabs of beer in the front boot helps achieve a near-perfect weight distribution.

Great for in impromptu barbecue as well! ; )
 
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