5 GT Turbo The Bogey

[jamesc]

Allo allo, it is I

Here is my project thread for my 1984 Renault 5 Turbo 2

It has been christened the Bogey or Bougie (French for spark plug) until we think of a better name!! As it is Marine Blue not green - honest!!!! Anyway, moving on....it all started around the time that dinosaurs roamed the earth in 1987, when my parents got hold of an 'S' reg Renault 5 in a lovely shade of orange.....



Seeing my Dad literally beating the ladies off from that day on, something lodged in my 6 year old's mind....Must Have A 5.....

One year later, no, Twenty Five years later - Bougie arrives:

 

[jamesc]

I found a parts list for the 185 and 200 CV kits from Renault Sport....'sans' means without and 'avec' means with:


The first item on the list is possibly a shim for the wastegate?? Not sure what that is and anyway there will be no raising of boost until I get a bit of confidence in the car. Second item on the list is a larger intercooler - check!





CV is short for Chevals Vapour btw or Steam Horses

The car had the 200 CV cam fitted (part number 77 11 064 580) by a previous owner.

 

[jamesc]

I found this site, with a partial translation of the above list.

http://renaultalpineownersclub.com/membersarea/Renault 5 Turbo 1 and 2 Tuning.pdf

Love the little smilie that has appeared in the link there :/. So the 185 CV kit consists of:

Wastegate 'bracket' (still none the wiser)
Larger intercooler
Colder spark plugs NGK B8EFS
Turbo compressor exit hose clamps x 2
Turbo compressor entry hose clamps x 2
Entry hose to turbo cold side
Exit hoses from intercooler x 4
Intercooler hose clamps x 8
Thermal switch for radiator (gis a clue hotter or colder)
Baffle for sump - not a bracket, see below



If I get hold of one it would be a good time to drop the sump and have a look at the oil pick-up

 

[Adey]

Would love to own 1 one day. Even been toying with the idea of trying to use one as a wedding car

Did you know it had all the upgrades when you got it? That sump pic look the same as the r5 coupe one, ive got a part number somewhere if you need it?

 

[jamesc]

Would love to own 1 one day. Even been toying with the idea of trying to use one as a wedding car

Did you know it had all the upgrades when you got it? That sump pic look the same as the r5 coupe one, ive got a part number somewhere if you need it?

Yes please mate post the part number up, I guess it would be the same item.

I tried getting married once, didn't like it . And the wedding car was indeed a 5 lol. You're welcome to try it!!

 

[Adey]

Thats what i have, the part number is probably old, but always worth a call to renault.

That would be ledge, we may have to talk one day in the future

 

[jamesc]

Thanks fella!

I guess you are serious about the wedding car then!! The mistake I made was to use a non-turbo Renault 5.......when the time comes, just give me a shout and you can try it in a turbo then you will have a long and happy marriage, eight kids and all that

 

[Adey]

Oh yes i am lol. I wont get much say in the day but that is one of the few things i have said need to happen lol. Got the lecar turbo but an actual 5 turbo would be the dogs. Long yes, happy sometimes 8 kids?! not a chance lol.

If you do happen to come across a sump baffle let me know

 

[jamesc]

That part number you posted ('60 00 056 568') is different from the one I have 77 11 050 804. The part looks almost the same though, only difference I can see is that the notch in the vertical section is filled in. It's only a sketch though. I'll have a look but seems like hen's teeth either one!!

edit:

I think it's this we are talking about, I'll give them a shout

http://www.mecaparts.com/Moteurs/page.php?lang=0&sortie=html&col=R5&page=7

 

[jamesc]

....Did you know it had all the upgrades when you got it?...

Sorry missed that comment....

The upgrades it had when I got it were the cam and RHD conversion, I put the intercooler on plus some other stuff that I will post up. The wing mirrors are called California style I think, and the front bumper is a Tour De Corse (copy?). I don't know if they were fitted from new.......I didn't do them......oh and the minilites are not original either.

I think someone has built it up to look like a TDC car but hasn't finished the internals......below is a Tour De Corse 5 Turbo that attended a 30-year anniversary event, same mirrors, wheels and bumper but that is where the similarities end (no alloy roof for example!!):

 

[jamesc]

A little more work I have done or have had done to the car.....

Ally radiator


Exhaust (Devil type mentioned in the link above)




A bit of crazing on the bumper there. Is it just me or is it not a good idea bolt a hot exhaust to a gearbox due to the heat....? With a metal bracket anyway.

Replaced clutch master cylinder


Rear wheel bearings

 

[jamesc]

More work...

Out with the old:

Front shocks/torsion bars/arm



Rear shocks & coil springs


In with the new:

Front coilovers



Rear coilovers

 

[jamesc]

The MSA don't like the coilovers..........at least in the standard classes:

"James,

Apologies for the delay in replying.

For a definitive decision you will need to contact the Eligibility Scrutineer for the championship you are entering, their details will be in the Championship regulations.

The regulation states that “11.7.1. The suspension type and mountings must remain the same as that fitted by the vehicle manufacturer.” So you will need to prove to the eligibility Scrutineer that the suspension fitted to your vehicle is of the of the original type using the original mountings. Normally this would prevent changing a torsion bar to a coil spring unless it can be proven to have been available as original equipment.

Best Regards"

I'm pretty sure though this type of suspension was available as an option from Renault...I will find out!!

 

[fatroofer]

Coming along nicely mate, I really like the look of this car (even more so because of the colour!) you don't see many around!

 

[jamesc]

Coming along nicely mate, I really like the look of this car (even more so because of the colour!) you don't see many around!

Cheers fella, maybe it's not exactly as the purists would like it but it's not just for hiding in the garage.....that is the plan anyway

 

[fatroofer]

Coming along nicely mate, I really like the look of this car (even more so because of the colour!) you don't see many

Cheers fella, maybe it's not exactly as the purists would like it but it's not just for hiding in the garage.....that is the plan anyway

Good man! A car like this needs to be out and enjoyed! It would be a crime not to!!

 

[DaveL485]

Seeing my Dad literally beating the ladies off from that day on,

LMAO

Interesting to see that it shares front suspension setup with the lowly Fuego...looks very similar at least!

 

[jamesc]

LMAO

Interesting to see that it shares front suspension setup with the lowly Fuego...looks very similar at least!

Looks like this matey, I didn't realise it was the same as the Fuego...loads of bits pinched from the 5 Gordini I knew that e.g. my steering rack!!





Just about everthing in the second picture is missing now

 

[DaveL485]

More similar, not identical. The front setup has the two wishbone things, and the shock and spring attach to the top one about halfway along.

 

[jamesc]

More similar, not identical. The front setup has the two wishbone things, and the shock and spring attach to the top one about halfway along.

My 5 orginally had double wishbones front and rear, with torsion bars at the front and coils at the back. So yes similar idea they are both called double wishbone set ups, I see what you mean:

http://www.clubrenaultfuego.com.ar/forocrf/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7457