5 GT Turbo Renny 5 sleeper

[Renny 5]

Hi guys

Just joined, I may know afew of you and some might follow me on Instagram. hopefully I will meet more of you next year.

Had my Renault 5 auto with a Clio 172 conversion for about 2 1/2years now and hopefully will be doing some more work to it over the winter. Planning on fitting clio 197 internals (which I’ve already bought) into my 172 engine and also tidy up some loose ends. It’s already got a massive spec and hopefully will be show worthy next year

Mark.

 

[Mark_L]

Looks great!

I do like a sleeper, did consider it on my 5 but decided to go big!

 

[Adey]

Welcome in @Renny 5 glad to see you posting. Love the car and love to see it screaming about on Instagram proper little sleeper this, surprisingly quick

 

[Renny 5]

Looks great!

I do like a sleeper, did consider it on my 5 but decided to go big!

What did you go big with??

 

[Renny 5]

Welcome in @Renny 5 glad to see you posting. Love the car and love to see it screaming about on Instagram proper little sleeper this, surprisingly quick

Cheers mate Was meant to get on here ages ago but I’ve been really busy. Just going through a house sale atm and once I’m all moved into my new abode I’ll start stripping it down and post any progress

 

[Mark_L]

What did you go big with??

Nothing yet, only just picked it up, not been on the road since 2010. But have big plans for it.

 

[Renny 5]

Continuing with this, bit of a back story (May 2019)

After breaking my mk2 golf 16v turbo, splitting up with the ex and selling my Clio 172 cup I decided to indulge myself with another financial mistake. Looking through eBay i
Found a young lad selling a Renault 5 auto for £500 in an auction. Having chatted for an hour we agreed on £1000 and that he removed it off eBay if the car was emaculate!! He said that he’d bought it for £1000 from a local auction and it had only had 1 previous lady owner.




It had plenty of paper work and drove like a dream. I kept it standard for about 2months before I decided to molester it. Once a ph1 clio 172 donor was found the conversion was done and also fitted GAZ coilovers with some turbine alloys. Unfortunately I’ve lost loads of photos over the years and I’ve only got this one.




After about a year of owning it I killed a gearbox, bent a selector fork which gave me an excuse to have a fresh box with a quaife. I know mark “northloopcup” was only down the road so I got him to build me a box and fit a diff. Whilst I had my box done I thought it was time for some more upgrades. The campus subframe, arb and rear axle werent upto the job so decided Togo R5GTT Instead. Tony Hart was selling one of his reinforced and seam welded subframes with all the poly bushes for £200 and it’d be rude not to fetch it seen as he only lives 20mins away.





Obviously i stripped it down, painted it before rebuilding it with fresh ball joints. Once the gearbox and the gtt subframe fitted with some vibra technic engine mounts. the campus drive shafts werent long enough possibly to the fact that I use Clio 172 hubs. After afew trial and errors, I found that I had to use a Clio 172 tripod coupling on the OS driveshaft to solve this.

For the rear I struggled to get a Gtt rear axle. A friend of a friend sold me a Clio Williams rear axle and said that I could use the torsion bars and disc brakes to upgrade mine. I had the torsion bars machined down 3mm each side so that they fit into the campus rear axle and the holes for the brakes drilled out and tapped to fit the rear disc callipers. Just for a cherry on top I decided to fit some Clio 16v steelies which I had powder coated. I really prefer these over the turbines and keeps the car looking more of a sleeper




To be continued…

 

[Mark_L]

Looks great, I’ve seen the pic of it on turbines somewhere before. Which I do like..

Still collecting parts for mine. Got some lotus rear suspension and Gaz golds, Forged F4rt with 20T turbo. Hoping for around 370/380 Bhp and around 8/900kgs rwd and little wider than a Std 5!

 

[Renny 5]

Looks great, I’ve seen the pic of it on turbines somewhere before. Which I do like..

Still collecting parts for mine. Got some lotus rear suspension and Gaz golds, Forged F4rt with 20T turbo. Hoping for around 370/380 Bhp and around 8/900kgs rwd and little wider than a Std 5!

Sounds like a lot of work, you sound be able to get it to 900kgs as mine only weighs about 820kgs.

 

[Mark_L]

Sounds like a lot of work, you sound be able to get it to 900kgs as mine only weighs about 820kgs.

Hope so will be fully caged etc so be around 50/60kgs in the cage.

Be a long process, just need to find the time and money now…

 

[Renny 5]

Anyway…..

After fitting the Gtt subframe from Tony at prima, Williams torsion bars, rear disc brakes and a fresh jc5-129 with a quaife from northloopcup the car was handling amazing however. Because I still had standard seats I literally couldn’t drive the car fast due to me sliding about! I wanted something that looked cool was comfy and suited the sleeper style I was going for. I saw a that a local business were doing a sale in cobra seats and thought I’d have a nosey and I literally fell in love with the cobra classics with no headrests. Including the OMP subframes and sliders they cost £550. Whilst I was at it I thought I’d splash out on a OMP steering wheel and a PMS shifter just to tie it all in.



Once these were fitted I could actually feel how good this car actually was. The seats are absolutely amazing and everyone always comments about how awesome they look. I will get them retrimmed at some point just to so the front seats and rear bench match.. The car stayed in this form for about a year due to me buying the meglio, killing its engine… having a new forged engine built then mapped and also moving house.

After moving in I’ve spent abit of time graveling the front garden and put a deposit down to have a garage built on the back garden. Since having the 5 it’s always been inside a garage at my previous house and I hate leaving it outside even though it’s under a car port and a cover at the minute. Should hopefully have it built in June with any luck. My mate Dan bought the ktec jenvey kit for his mk1 clio 172 and I went down to EFI Parts with him to get it mapped…


Once I heard the ITB’s on full chat I knew…. 100% knew I had to have some and then a week later, a second hand set come up on cliosport forum for £1800. The kit included the direct to head itb’s, Ktec filter (which is garbage) Clio 197 injectors and the plug & play gen90 ecu which had a base map on it. I had a word with Dan about the loom as some of the pin outs need changing from the standard ecu to the gen90 and he said he had a spare Clio 172 cup loom for me that was already made up. This would be loads better for the Renault 5 as the ph1 Clio 172 loom I currently had was basically loads of terminated wires for stuff like abs, air con, T/C etc. I can honestly say sometimes, Dan is an absolute legend and said he’d fit it all whilst I was away with the new missus which I proper needed!!





Once I got back from my first holiday in 3years I started to tidy up the engine bay. I saw on Instagram someone was selling scuttle tray covers. As I still had the original battery it wasnt going to fit so I purchased an odyssey pc680 and a battery tray. Redid the battery fuse box and replaced the ring terminals on the lives and earths.

The trumpets that came with the kit were 70mm and too long to fit any air filters so I had to ordered shorter trumpets (35mm) ITG filter and backing plate. The filter just squeezes in with just enough room to remove it.



Still got plenty todo before it goes to EFI Parts at the end of May. Paint the rocker cover, fit a PMS breather plate, oil catch tank, set the cams to Group N Timing and a new expansion bottle as mines gone brown

 

[Mark_L]

Can’t beat the sound of Itb’s.

 

[DaveL485]

What an awesome little car!

 

[Renny 5]

Can’t beat the sound of Itb’s.

Love hearing them sing… really looking forward to getting mine mapped. I’ve had to restrain myself from ringing its neck because it’s only a base map that’s on the ecu.

What an awesome little car!

Thanks Dave, it’s been a lot of time, money and effort to get it here but there still loads todo.

I’ve actually missed loads out because I’ve lost tones of photos and I’ve never actually been a forum type of guy and forgot about things over the past 3years. like the mk1 Clio 16v fuel tank and pump that I use. The Clio 172 hubs are milled down 2mm either side just so the GAZ coilovers fit. Ive not really said owt about the clio 172 cup box I use (JC5-129) the original speedo drive from the Renault 5 is a direct fit into the box.

 

[Brigsy]

Looks class. Room for one of those nice pms exhaust manifolds now original inlet is gone

 

[Renny 5]

I actually bought that pms manifold on a whim, I got some rough measurements then just chanced it Now I’ve got it and done some more measuring it’s gunna be real close to the underside of the bonnet. It’s gunna be a job over winter tbh but at the end of the day it could go three ways:

• it actually fits perfect
• it doesn’t fit but just needs modifying which I’m lucky enough to know afew lads that can help me and are good at tig welding
• it doesn’t fit, sell it on and have a mate of mine make something similar to what I’ve got now

Honeslty though, I want it to fit. They look amazing and it’s always a good thing to brag about

 

[Brigsy]

I think the pms manifold is quite knacker tight on a clio. Definitely be able to squeeze it in though

 

[Renny 5]

So after bombarding you lot with loads of posts I’ve actually caught up to today. As I’ve said before the renny 5 will be at EFI Parts at the end of the month and I always like to make sure my cars are spot on for Chris. Me and Dan are regulars as some of you have seen off my Instagram and we’ve had to help him afew times get other customers cars off the rollers because they’ve either got flat batteries, knackered starters or other issues and I would be embarrassed if that was me but anyway. I’ve been using PBS pro race pads and they’ve warped my front discs!! This has actually happened on the meglio too (which I’ve changed the pads to ds3000’s) so it’s time to refresh my front brakes!

Purchased some ds2500’s and Brembo high carbon discs. I’ve used these before and we’re pretty good. Reason why I bought the pbs pads were because they were only £100 which I regret buying now!!

My 172 callipers are looking nasty so though I’d spray them up in “sleeper silver” just so that look like standard callipers to any joe public who ain’t got a sharp eye for anyone else who knows there stuff can see my PMS billet pullies

These look loads better now and glad I’ve spent today doing it. One thing that does catch me out every time though is that brake pads always come way too thick and I’m having to grind them down… does anyone else have this problem or am I stupid?? Another job for tomorrow is to have my wheels balanced as I noticed a bit of wheel wobble when I took it down the motorway and I don’t think I can handle that all the way to Liverpool.



None the wiser of what hides behind these steelies

 

[Duncan Grier]

Which front discs did you use? 5 gt turbo list 20mm thickness new and 172 24mm new

Never got close to 172 calipers on the 5 but could it be this? No idea on hub mounting position with 172 calipers?

Looks much better sprayed

 

[Turbell]

Sooooo....what's the full recipe for F4r in a 5?
Box,shafts, mounts, hubs etc....
My Lad probably won't let me rest until I've beasted Camprust after its retired when I've got his 225 Meg done....
My biggest concern is ECU , can a phase 2 172/182 be parted from a UCH , I'm not losing sleep about engine swap on his 5 just yet, but when I get bored I'll start making bold, off the cuff statements and make a rod for my own back, but I'm highly allergic to spending money, so standalone ECU's and the like bring me out in a rash........ we're both fans of the steely sleeper look though, but his is just sleepy ATM