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looks cheap!
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Personally the ad looks poor which suggest a bit of apathy on the sellers behalf, yes you could ring them up and ask the questions but better all round to have relevant information in the ad.
I would want to know, for example, what 'major work' means as I would be expecting a clutch to have been replaced. You could assume FSH means 'full and complete' but would actually expect there to be some timing gaps and perhaps intermediate services missing or non main dealer.
The mileage would be high for me at that price as wear and tear plays a bigger factor as mileage increases and costs for things such as brake discs and pads we all know are high so the value would depend more on the service details and history. Of course the second cam belt change is likely to be due next year also if the first one was done on time.
If it's a good example with the servicing done to reflect the mileage and wear and tear then it might be a good car for someone though ...
Martin
I would want to know, for example, what 'major work' means as I would be expecting a clutch to have been replaced. You could assume FSH means 'full and complete' but would actually expect there to be some timing gaps and perhaps intermediate services missing or non main dealer.
The mileage would be high for me at that price as wear and tear plays a bigger factor as mileage increases and costs for things such as brake discs and pads we all know are high so the value would depend more on the service details and history. Of course the second cam belt change is likely to be due next year also if the first one was done on time.
If it's a good example with the servicing done to reflect the mileage and wear and tear then it might be a good car for someone though ...
Martin
cliche":3kf3a2lb said:
Hi Gareth :approve:
Yes still a member of gt4oc and currently have a restored ST165 track car as my 'weekend' car and no longer a Vee ...
Clutch life varies I think on driving style etc. but spirited launches cause/influence slippage on the phase 2 quite easily - so if driven hard they probably won't last that milage. Many people replace clutches when the cam-belt is replaced so it is always good to know if this has been done and I would assume a seller would be keen to say so if that was the case.
Martin
Samwilde681
New Member
If this is purely an occasional car and it's reasonable in terms of history I'd consider it, needs a good clean though, and agreed shoddy ad!!
Its not that bad guys. Sounds to me like it doesn't need anything doing. Its quite obviouse "major work" means cambelts, aux belt etc etc. Its got new disks and pads which is good too. Let's be honest, at 60k miles, what usually goes wrong with them? . . . . . not much. Mine did 70k and felt tight as a ducks ass.
I think buying or at least considering to buy one of these cars based on a PH advert is a bit silly. Nothing beats calling the seller. Bullshit is usually a lot easier to smell then.
Looks like a bloody good car if its all Hpi clear and not a CAT D or C.
I think buying or at least considering to buy one of these cars based on a PH advert is a bit silly. Nothing beats calling the seller. Bullshit is usually a lot easier to smell then.
Looks like a bloody good car if its all Hpi clear and not a CAT D or C.
Alpineandy
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It's not the type of car you'd buy without some reasearch and if the Ad gave the life story of the car day by day, you'd still want to phone the guy.
The Ad says enough to make it worth calling if you're interested in a 255.
The mileage is a complete side issue that's only mildly relevant after you've checked the condition and the history.
It could easily cost less money to run than a 25k miles car if it's been well looked after/serviced.
Discs are braking related rather than milage related.
A 21k car with a few track days under it's belt is likely to need discs more than a gently driven 60k car.
Without looking at it you can't tell if it's worth it's asking price or not.
The Ad says enough to make it worth calling if you're interested in a 255.
The mileage is a complete side issue that's only mildly relevant after you've checked the condition and the history.
It could easily cost less money to run than a 25k miles car if it's been well looked after/serviced.
Discs are braking related rather than milage related.
A 21k car with a few track days under it's belt is likely to need discs more than a gently driven 60k car.
Without looking at it you can't tell if it's worth it's asking price or not.
Oldskoolbaby":15onenk4 said:
For me if someone can't be arsed to write a decent ad I personally wouldn't be inclined to call them unless I was particularly tempted by the price or the car was rarer for example or stood our for some reason. I concede that sometimes sellers maybe can't or don't want to put more in but this is just my opinion. How many of us have had the 'come and see it mate' kind of feedback and had our time totally wasted. Sometimes a bit of demonstrable effort put in works wonders - ads are simply Marketing tools at the end of the day the product is either worth buying or not depending on whether you want to go and see it.
Just goes to show though that different things tempt different people and that is what makes a Market.
Martin
Alpineandy
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k1ano":rg1uzjgi said:
It's possible you've missed some great deals then.
Cor blimey poor owner is being crucified on the cross over the advert!! Ok an over-exaggeration I know :rofl:
Seems to me its a simple advert purely because the owner possibly doesnt often sell cars hence the simplicity of it. Or he hasnt got the knowledge base of how to write a good advert. Likewise the price seems cheap again probably he doesnt analyse other adverts or current market prices. Some people are not that way inclined. The fact SG Motorsports has worked on the car surely is a positive. Scott may have info on the car, condition etc. Surely as Brett says ring the owner or have a look at the car, the service history etc. before throwing the owner to the lions. :rofl:
Humour aside if I was a potential buyer I would be looking at this car. Could be a bargain then again maybe not. Discounting on the strength of a simplistic advert is a little non-sensical surely???? Its not like there is an abundance of vees on sale or will ever be.
Ring the owner why pussyfoot with emails.
Martin I do understand your point about the fact if it is unique or rare vee in some way would make you more inclined to contact the owner
which doesnt apply in this case but for someone looking to own a vee without the uniqueness criteria its certainly worth a phonecall.
Seems to me its a simple advert purely because the owner possibly doesnt often sell cars hence the simplicity of it. Or he hasnt got the knowledge base of how to write a good advert. Likewise the price seems cheap again probably he doesnt analyse other adverts or current market prices. Some people are not that way inclined. The fact SG Motorsports has worked on the car surely is a positive. Scott may have info on the car, condition etc. Surely as Brett says ring the owner or have a look at the car, the service history etc. before throwing the owner to the lions. :rofl:
Humour aside if I was a potential buyer I would be looking at this car. Could be a bargain then again maybe not. Discounting on the strength of a simplistic advert is a little non-sensical surely???? Its not like there is an abundance of vees on sale or will ever be.
Ring the owner why pussyfoot with emails.
Martin I do understand your point about the fact if it is unique or rare vee in some way would make you more inclined to contact the owner
which doesnt apply in this case but for someone looking to own a vee without the uniqueness criteria its certainly worth a phonecall.
