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Handling

Dan-v6

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I am reading up about how these car handle, are they as bad as some of the reports make out? (phase 2)

Is sitting the car on KW's worth doing? Or maybe a set of R888's for summer driving.

Thanks
 
My experience of running cars on R888's and other trackday type tyres is that, for road driving, all you're doing is moving the limit of adhesion higher, but when they do let go it's generally more abrupt and you're obviously travelling faster than you otherwise might have been.

In my opinion I think a road going Vee is always going to be a friendlier prospect on good quality road tyres as they round off the edges to the limits of adhesion compared to the more aggressive track tyres.
 
Michelin Pilots are fine for summer road use.

I've always found the levels of grip excellent, but would be nervous about "pushing on" in damp conditions - because when Vees "let go" they're nigh-on impossible to collect. Short wheel base and engine location contribute to a high moment of inertia.

KW3's improve the package - but suspension components (and brakes for that matter) are not the weakest link...
It's these little foibles which makes the Vee command respect from it's driver, and makes the whole raw Vee experience compelling! :approve:
 
The press reports are all lies in my opinion. I think both standard ph1 & ph2 v6's handle great as road car.

They are not as easy to drive really fast as some other cars are, thats all.
 
With its generous run-off, Bedford is great to learn the limits of just about any car Dan, great idea.

As Duncan has mentioned, alot of press reports on these cars is rubbish. They do command respect when driving, but in the dry I've never felt in-nerved by its handling abilities. In the wet though.... now that's a different story. Handle with a huge amount of care. Ensure the tracking is set correctly, and theat you have good tyres!
 
Same here Dan, id always had fwd cars before I got the VEE, I asked the same questions, however take your time to get to know the car and the way it drives and you can get extremely rewarding handling, in the wet they are tricky but ive NEVER had a problem, not that I drive it in the wet much. I picked it up from Scotland and drove it 500 miles in the wet without any issues at all, I went across the scottish border too (amazing drive) I do have a phase 1 though which I think are a little more tricky! but yeah dont worry about it, just dont be a plonker on the corners....
 
If you spin a vee in the dry, you are traveling far too fast! The bad press has come from people trying to drive at their limits like a typical fwd or awd car.
 
A friend of mine has an expression - "it's just physics".

Short wheelbase, rear-wheel drive, torquey power delivery, high centre of gravity, high traction makes for a very capable car which if it loses traction whilst cornering will swap ends very quickly ... They tend to swap ends more easily in damp conditions if too much throttle is applied or the roads are greasy. In the dry thay are formidable cars with a limit beyond what most of us will experience.

This is part of what makes them fun as you just can't hoon a Vee around without being fairly competant at driving and that makes the drive engaging and rewarding.

Martin
 
Renaultsport normaly do a Bedford session in their calendar. I'm hoping I can get on one next year for the similar reason that you can find the limit with a low chance of damaging the car
 
Dan-v6":1p9cc52k said:
Williams":1p9cc52k said:
With its generous run-off, Bedford is great to learn the limits of just about any car Dan, great idea.

Does the forum do any trackday?

French boys do. Just book a trackday at Bedford it doesnt matter if its through Evo or Renaultsport or just direct and go find its limits. Alternatively come on a driving meet and have a good blast with us.
 
In my experience (having attempted using my first vee as a daily driver), it isn't too bad in the wet.
It's when the road is damp rather than wet that I found it much more of a hand full.

As for driving in snow/icy conditions - wouldn't be something I'd do in any mid-engined RWD car let alone the V6.

My current vee is a summer, dry toy only so handling is never a problem - it has amazing grip in the dry, and allows really confident drving.
 
I note that you have owned a 993 C2 and a GT3.

If that is the case IMO you should have no problem whatsoever coping with a Vee.

Which GT3 did you have?
 
Lankan":2kv11yi1 said:
I note that you have owned a 993 C2 and a GT3.

If that is the case IMO you should have no problem whatsoever coping with a Vee.

Which GT3 did you have?


996.1 loved it.
 
Having owned my Vee for about 6 weeks now I've purposely driven it in any weather just to get used to it. No major mis haps to report, the odd twitch here and there which made me smile rather than panic. Great car absolutely love it! :race:
 
Dan-v6":uj27grvv said:
Lankan":uj27grvv said:
I note that you have owned a 993 C2 and a GT3.

If that is the case IMO you should have no problem whatsoever coping with a Vee.

Which GT3 did you have?


996.1 loved it.

Even better....shouldn't be a problem at all then.....

Mk I or II?
 
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