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[Jamesv6]

I recall I had adjustable coilovers. Never adjusted them after they were fitted. A bit like an interior mirror, when it’s right, it’s right.

 

[arno samimi]

I recall I had adjustable coilovers. Never adjusted them after they were fitted. A bit like an interior mirror, when it’s right, it’s right.

Correct.
Many setting options doesn't mean that you play around with it every day.
Once you have found your setting, you let it be, of course, and maybe adjust something about the hardness every now and then when you change your tours.
E.g. everyday life and then a trackday or something similar.

 

[Ren5Clio]

That V6 owners prefer to keep OEM is understandable and completely ok. That you can revise shock absorbers and change the inside as well.
You're not telling anything new.

But you can change the OEM damper as much as you want.
You will never come close to the damping performance / set up of a progressive double piston monotube damper with a piston diameter of 44mm. No way.
The other adjustment options are not even mentioned,
such as adjustment window adjustment of bump and rebound, stabilizer height (Ph2), adjustable camber plates, car height separate from the spring preload etc., etc.

As already mentioned, the negative driving characteristics of the V6 (the fact that it doesn't even have a stabilizer on the rear axle says a lot)
can largely disappear with such an RSC.
The V6 is no longer recognizable, and driving pleasure increases immensely.
Regardless of whether the car height is set in the OEM height or a little lower. Everything works.

But as it is in many things with humans: What the farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat...
Maybe you also know the saying in the UK...

Well owners on here are all fairly clued up so i didn't feel it necessary to go into the details of high speed/low speed bump rebound, camber, caster, KPI, bump steer, droop/preload, ride height, spring rates, rising rate, roll stiffness, roll centres etc etc.

Renault didn't fit an anti roll bar (stabilizer) on the rear so they could give the car more traction in the wet. The rear high speed stability & high speed change of direction would be much improved in the dry with an anti roll bar fitted but after early testing they decided that inexperienced drivers would not be able to drive the car safely in the wet if they fitted one. This handling trait where Renault went with no rear anti roll bar is mainly down to the use of the standard Clio FWD front wishbone pick up point locations, having to run the car much lower on the front than was originally designed for the FWD Clio & a compromised rear suspension pickup point design which when all combined creates some "unusual" roll centre geometry.

 

[arno samimi]

Even without the rear stabilizer, the V6 didn't get much better in handling.

This radical conversion of an FWD with a front engine into a RWD with a mid-engine was simply not done well on the chassis side by Renault (or TWR).
For example, it was not at all possible to achieve a really good package from the basic geometry.
A conversion to coilovers, especially by lowering the vehicle height, improved a lot.

With an RSC with the already mentioned damper technology / set-up, the V6 has become by far the best and most pleasantly drivable. This is undisputed.

 

[ed_harland]

Well owners on here are all fairly clued up so i didn't feel it necessary to go into the details of high speed/low speed bump rebound, camber, caster, KPI, bump steer, droop/preload, ride height, spring rates, rising rate, roll stiffness, roll centres etc etc.

Really..........that clued up [smilie=icon_eek.gif] and there are a lot of etc. etc. to add if we're going in that deep.

Basically the standard vee, wether phase one or two, in my limited experience, is a perfectly driveable car in normal UK road conditions, wet or dry, in spite of the compromises in suspension design.
If you're going to push the envelope a bit then an occasional track day may fit the bill. Adjustable coilovers would be a help with ride height and corner weighting but huge gains can be made by tyres of a different make/compound/profile and just playing with pressures. Enough for a driver of average ability and good fun is assured.
For a serious track day tool spend the money on arno's suspension along with a myraid of other components and engine mods only to realise that there are plenty of more capable track cars going by :rollseyes: !
If you love your vee, as I do, when the oem koni's get weak, replace them with arno's coilovers. Only the best will do and the cost is absorbed by increasing values, then have your koni's rebuilt and keep them for the day you part with the car.

I hope you sell more of these via v6clio.net. The 5% bunce will come in very handy to us.

as will my 20% discount

 

[arno samimi]

Thank you for your opinion. [cmilie=iconcheers.gif]

If i were really selling RSC coilover kits through this forum, I would think about a forum discount.