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Pilleyc1978

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Evening, almost a week into ownership and I’ve got my first gremlin.
I drove my car to work today 50 mile round trip and the car didn’t miss a beat but just before I got home the engine management light came on. Left the car for five mins got back in and the light was
Off, car ran fine. Then had to go out about 20 minutes later, got in the car turned the key but it would start. Tried 4 attempts nothing but the electrics worked. I left the car for five minutes then car started reluctantly but still drove ok.
Thinking it may be a flat battery I just took it out again. Again reluctant start but drove for 12 miles no problem but the light has come on again. Any ideas?


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clarkeeuk99":1trpm3rj said:
What do you mean by "reluctantly started"? Did it perhaps sounds like all 6 cylinders weren't firing?
No not cylinders more lack of power from the battery. That was I’m initial thought especially as it hasn’t been out much until I bought it. But the engine management light coming on made me think twice. Or could it be the battery is flat due to lack of use and the light is a different problem?


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Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.
 
MrBlueSky":70wzlt9l said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.
I’m not sure how old the battery is. The starter motor is another possibility. Is that a big job? I’ve just plugged in my OBD2. The Battery shows 12 volts and the error code is P0430 which is a cat issue. I will call Mark Fish tomorrow


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Pilleyc1978":1vrsuokk said:
MrBlueSky":1vrsuokk said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.
I’m not sure how old the battery is. The starter motor is another possibility. Is that a big job? I’ve just plugged in my OBD2. The Battery shows 12 volts and the error code is P0430 which is a cat issue. I will call Mark Fish tomorrow


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Pilleyc1978":15f2rwmn said:
Pilleyc1978":15f2rwmn said:
MrBlueSky":15f2rwmn said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.
I’m not sure how old the battery is. The starter motor is another possibility. Is that a big job? I’ve just plugged in my OBD2. The Battery shows 12 volts and the error code is P0430 which is a cat issue. I will call Mark Fish tomorrow


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Is this worth a go first?


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As far I can muster - 90% of overall Vee faults (which fortunately are few and far between) are attributable to coils packs failure or 10 year old starter motor failure.

The symptoms you are describing could be either. Once the problem is resolved, trouble-free motoring beckons...
 
Kett":dphtxoby said:
As far I can muster - 90% of overall Vee faults (which fortunately are few and far between) are attributable to coils packs failure or 10 year old starter motor failure.

The symptoms you are describing could be either. Once the problem is resolved, trouble-free motoring beckons...
Fingers crossed it’s one of those two issues. I read a few bits re the coil pack and as I under stand fairly easy/cheap to fix. What about the starter motor?


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clarkeeuk99":2erpy5rc said:
Starter is quite an easy one to replace (I think). Mine packed up about 3 years ago. Was the first time it had gone.

Mine packed up last year. I think it’s inevitable between 10-15 years of life. Hopefully, the ‘new improved’ replacements are more durable.
 
However Chris, I suspect you have coil failure as my starter was completely goosed when it failed and no engine management light was shown.
 
Kett is spot on, mine was relictant to start at times yet other times fine. It was starter motor, the oe has glued in magnets and i suspect on mine a magnet had come adrift and the starter would have to overcome that magnets resistance depending where it parked itself. Mine was replaced with a bosch unit with bolt in magnets. I did replace battery anyway as it was original so was 12 yrs old. I doubt engine management light is as consequence of either issues and mine only ever illuminates when coil pack fails.
I’m always sceptible of additives but as long as no reports of ill effects must be worth a try.
Having said all that i have just put redex in Porsche as its done fairly high miles and still on original injectors, now that car in cold damp weather throws up engine management light, which i hope is just a connection.
 
SJ":2ixiuko4 said:
Kett is spot on, mine was relictant to start at times yet other times fine. It was starter motor, the oe has glued in magnets and i suspect on mine a magnet had come adrift and the starter would have to overcome that magnets resistance depending where it parked itself. Mine was replaced with a bosch unit with bolt in magnets. I did replace battery anyway as it was original so was 12 yrs old. I doubt engine management light is as consequence of either issues and mine only ever illuminates when coil pack fails.
I’m always sceptible of additives but as long as no reports of ill effects must be worth a try.
Having said all that i have just put redex in Porsche as its done fairly high miles and still on original injectors, now that car in cold damp weather throws up engine management light, which i hope is just a connection.
I’ve charged the battery all day and it running 12.6 volts but I’m not sure if it’s the right battery for the car. On a previous thread i saw that 63ah wasn’t powerful enough. The one in mine is 53ah. What would the best battery to get? Regardless whether the starter is the issue It needs replacing


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This is original from mine, lasted 12yrs and was still going strong and passed drop test, i swapped it for a new battery from renault which as i recall only about £75.
 
MrBlueSky":12o9bvpx said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.


Am having troubles starting my Vee!
Where could I get this updated starter motor from? Is it a revamped Renault starter?

Thanks
 
E30 M3":ihn0hb42 said:
MrBlueSky":ihn0hb42 said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.


Am having troubles starting my Vee!
Where could I get this updated starter motor from? Is it a revamped Renault starter?

Thanks
I got it from euro car parts. £221 inc vat


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Pilleyc1978":37d762ca said:
E30 M3":37d762ca said:
MrBlueSky":37d762ca said:
Could it be the starter motor. I know there was a revision to a much larger motor recently due to failing magnets. Mine did the same thing before it failed completely. Started hesitantly a couple of times. Then didn't start, then did, then caput. All other electrics working fine.
Any chance you could try bump starting. That would confirm.


Am having troubles starting my Vee!
Where could I get this updated starter motor from? Is it a revamped Renault starter?

Do you remember what make that is I will order it tomorrow?! Cheers

Thanks
I got it from euro car parts. £221 inc vat


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