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The Scrapyard Quadra

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by DaveL485, Feb 6, 2014.

Discuss The Scrapyard Quadra in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    March 2009- I was feeling creative. Wrote this when I resurrected my 21 from a mouldy sabbatical :)
    I bought this car as a fire damaged wreck from a scrapyard, and a rolled, rear ended wreck from another scrap yard. Et Voila, one working car, which appeared on the road around 2003 in standard trim.

    Once upon a time, there was a white car,Round the country it went to lands afar,
    Then one day in the hands of a fool,A fuel pipe expired and covered it in fuel.
    It burned for a bit til a hose was found,and then it was doused and for the scrappy was bound.

    It sat in the yard contemplating its fate,filled with remorse and bad feelings of hate,
    over time people came and raped it for bits,the ham fisted sods got right on its tits,
    Despair in its heart it resigned to fall,until one day by chance a random call,
    a young lad on the phone with money to burn,did rescue the car as through his growing concern.

    For months the car sat before its saving grace,took it from the bowels of that woeful place,
    on a wagon it sat, papping it pants,wondering where it was headed for its second chance,
    south it did travel on the M number six,feeling some hope at speed fifty-six,
    and then it arrived at its new place,at forty church lane it looked really ace.

    Off the trailer it rolled onto the drive,delighted it was there and still alive,
    it's new dad bounded out with delight abound,to examine the wreckage of this once-proud hound,
    it's charred raped remains were decidedly rough,was it here for life or was its luck just tough?

    In the garage it sat for time unabound,being stripped of remains that wern't worth a pound,
    new dad worked away while swigging his hooch,white car sat and took it playing the good pooch,
    and then one day another arrived,a black car but damaged and a plan was contrived,
    the black car gave up what life it had,and gave it to white car who was feeling so bad,
    all of a sudden he came back to life,fired on all four without any strife.

    And so it began the rebirth of white car,once again it travels to lands afar,
    new dad is now old dad as years have gone past,they stuck together, a relationship to last,
    sometimes he sits biding his time to set off,waiting for dad to get the polishing cloth,
    safe in the knowledge his home is still here,month after month, year after year.

    He's been resting a while, getting new bits,waiting for dad again, while the stuff he fits,
    awaiting some fun as time does go by,this is the story of H599 N E Y.....

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    New intercooler
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    Home made DV take-off and Air temp sensor fitting (lol)
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    2.0NA headlights and nosecone to fit around the cooler
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    New seat
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    Heater Matrix...shit job.
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    Yuk.
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    Yum
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    Nose painted, new headlights.
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    Milestone (it's now on 36,500 as of Jan 2014)
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    Lovely clean, original rockers. You can see the external wastegate just behind :) this was the first time the rocker cover had ever been off the engine.
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    How to severely fcuk up a brake disc!
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  2. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Original pictures from back in the day, before cameras had phones attached to em lol, circa 2001-ish
    Crashed one.
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    Burned one
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    And the external WG I fitted with screamer pipe, also in 2009. Up until then I used it as a normal car, in 2009 I decided to strip it out and abuse it lots :D
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  3. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I should mention in 2011, the (now-ex) Mrs fucked off, leaving me able to waste vast amounts of money on cars again :D
    2012-2013 Brake upgrade starts...
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    Been to see Uncle Scoff for an Adaptronic (Prop disconnected)
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    This revives the engine build I started before the kids arrived in 2005. Everything here is bespoke, 1-off, made to order.
    Double Valve springs
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    Seats and retainers
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    And a set of exhaust valves made from Nimonic 80A .....(and I have to use the word)..... Superalloy. £84 each, plus VAT. Raped!
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    Plan B, just for rudeness, throttle bodies :D
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    Billet cam
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    Delicious Vernier
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    And my twelve valve head conversion
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    Cam caps were shortened and the cam runners re-bored and honed to make sure that sweet little billet cam runs smoothly
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    Every holes a goal!
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  4. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Brakes ctd.....home made caliper hangers. The top holes were drilled and threaded but I decided I wanted more!
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    Now some fuel pumps, one for each rail, cos I want eight injectors.
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    A serial to bluetooth adapter
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    WB02 2AO (Old skool!)
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    All chatting with this
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    = really cool Android app on my phone showing the engine management parameters
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    Brake trial fit
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    Thats what I call a tight fit!
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    And after a year of arsing about, finally, my 800hp-rated steel rods show up :D a snip at £120. Per cylinder!
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    And some hardened rockers to cope with the hi lift cam and double springs
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    The block is built, now I have to take it apart again to fit the steel rods. The block already has forged pistons and steel, wire-rung liners made by Arias.
     
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  5. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    New horn compressor. Feck me it's loud now!
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    Fixed a sidelight short too, and secured a loose sideskirt.
    Resulting in....a new MOT :D Passed first time.
     
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  6. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Updates updates updates. All of a sudden I have got rid of everybody elses cars and I can get on with some stuff on my own!
    I changed the OS driveshaft on the 172 Saturday morning and then taxed it so i'm now back to three fully road legal cars (Volvo, Clio, 21). That was pleasing as limping about in the clio with a goosed driveshaft wasn't fun.
    Less of the boring updates though. Friday I did this.
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    (No this isn't me welding, I got a friend to do that bit!)
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    Tacked in place for messing about with
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    The bore pitch is only 1mm different, in the end I had to rotate the inner runners in toward the middle ever so slightly to align it a little better
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    Need to round the injector holes out a little due to the weld line
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    You will note that fact that there is eight injector holes, the front set at a steep angle pointed at the back of the valves and the rear set in the throttle bodies at a shallow angle, again pointed straight into the port.
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    So, in answer to the question "Can you make Pulsar ITB's fit a Renault 21 TXi head", my response is "Yes" :D
     
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  7. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    And Saturday/Sunday I did this.
    New throttle position switch is £245 from Renault, the robbing bastards. So I got a universal one from my tuner. Straight swap yeah?
    Like fuck.
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    Some scribbles
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    Hmmmm
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    Note the D shape that locks into the throttle body spindle shape
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    Remade it in ally instead of steel so it was easier to thread the little M4 holes
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    Trimmed threads
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    Dab of weld
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    Chopping some wiring
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    Rerouted. Forgot to thread the heatshrink though.
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    Mapped in the new TPS on the Adaptronic and went for a test drive. Still got an intermittent misfire somewhere, though the new TPS has made a huge improvement. More tinkering to come soon :)
     
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  8. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    So today I stripped out the forged pistons and steel liners from the block, to take them to have the rods fitted. Here's a shot of the oil sprays to the bottom of the pistons.

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    You'll notice there are 2 different types, 1.2 and 3.4....this means "this oil jet fits Cylinder 1 or 2, or cylinder 3 or 4".

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    Behind that ball bearing liveth a spring. An old spring.

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    So we managed to get some new ones, thanks to a top bloke I know from the 21toc called John. I'll have these fitted when the rods are done as there is some industrial cleaning to do in there too.

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    Forged pistons removed, engine never run. Note the OE rods. Rings are gummed up with the preserving oil its been drenched in over the decade since it was built!

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    Top left, new rods (well, one of), 800hp rated apparently!

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    Complete with ARP bolts

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    Just for laughs I offered it all together, I started building this on 2004 I think. This is the first time the head has seen the block.

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    And yes, I do work on it in my living room. My house, my rules! :D
     
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  9. phil21turbo

    phil21turbo Well-Known Member

    YAWN!... Seriously Dave good progress... When will we see the engine in, and on the road?? & will you need to modify the gearbox?
     
  10. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Ideally this year sometime. Gearbox, well, i'll wait and see what happens lol
     
  11. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I took the pistons, liners and rods to the engineers today for the work I wanted. The throttle bodies have gone in too for ultrasonic cleaning and vapour blasting.

    Its all getting awfully serious now.
     
  12. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Today I pulled the 21 out of the garage, ripped the old Ph3 clutch pedal out along with the actuator rod made of half a ph3 one and half a ph1 one, fitted a phase one rod and pedal and even bothered to refit the spring capsule. It's given me one of the best 21 clutch pedals i've ever used, so am very pleased with myself.
    Took it for a drive around the block, still misfiring, other wise it'd be a right tarmac terrorist. Put it back in the garage, pulled the front bumper off and stuck it in the Volvo to go and tweak it. Noted that the Rad is falling apart to the point about ten of the water runners have no fins between them and have bloated/expanded to the point they are touching each other....although it doesnt lose any water.

    Best buy a new Rad hadn't I lol
     
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  13. stu21t

    stu21t Well-Known Member


    FUCK ME THATS DEPRESSING!


    and it's more than 10 yrs ago now lol.
     
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  14. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    You're right, I bought that block in '05 IIRC, Roger had it stored before that, so you must have had it assembled in...what...02 or 03?
     
  15. Larsson7

    Larsson7 Well-Known Member

    Dave get the finger out and get it running!
     
  16. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Working on it, the standalone has just had a strop which i'm trying to figure out.
     
  17. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Throttle bodies are looking a little shinier :) No paint involved here either. This is sheer cleanliness!
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  18. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    And now the new under-piston oil spray springs are fitted, we can see two of the old ones were broken!

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  19. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Old vs New :D

    The swivel ends on my braided brake lines were seized solid though, the M10 Male-Male adapter rounded and then it stripped the threads too. Wasn't happy, so now I have had to order some replacement braided lines. Nothing vexes me more than having to replace parts I already replaced. Very annoying. Waiting on those before I can connect the brakes up.

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  20. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Meanwhile, back in grinderville:

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