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The Black Plague - 21 Turbo Quadra from Hungary

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by Kondas21, Jan 14, 2015.

Discuss The Black Plague - 21 Turbo Quadra from Hungary in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Fuck the dog!!!! Thats mental hahahaha

    I don't know whether to applaud you or shake you
     
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  2. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    Applaud please
     
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  3. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    :ahahaha::lol:
     
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  4. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    Thankyou:)
     
  5. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    In December 2012 we moved from Alton to Basingstoke, to save on fuel. Funny enough, my turbo gave in just as we completed the move. I noticed earlier, cars stay well clear at the back and the blueness of the smoke coming from the exhaust deepened. So I said my prayers every night so the car would last 'til the move.
    Since mostly I had Joe working on the car, I phoned him to find out, how hard is to get the turbo off the car. He said: "ah not very, you just undo these bolts and disconnect that and that hose and it's off, no worries". So on a sunny Saturday morning in January I gave it a try, and 'only' four hours later it was off the car. I sent it away to Turborebuild So they can do their magic on it. I asked for the 360 bearing so it could handle a bit more torture. Well, they did it. At first glance everything seemed fine, the surprise came when I wanted to put it back on the manifold...
    Turbo bracket line-up.jpg
    Turbo bracket line-up 2.jpg
    I phoned them saying I expected a more professional approach, like they would mark it up before disassembly and assembling it properly. They replied I can either do it myself and the warranty won't be void, or send it back and they will sort it. I said I paid quite a lot of money for you to do your job right so I expect you to solve the problem.
    A week later I got the turbo back, but the angle still wasn't right, the actuator rod would have rubbed on the oil drain pipe, but that was easy enough to sort. This time it took me only 3 hours to mount it back and finally I could fire up the Plague. But because of the 3 month stand, it developed yet another fault.
    Just a few days before our trip back to Poland (March 2013), the alternator gave up the ghost. I think, too much water leaked through the vented bonnet, so I decided, once back in Hungary I will swap it back to the original and won't use the vented one in the UK ever again. I called Ollie, luckily he had a spare alternator, and one day before the trip Tony (my colleague) and me fitted it. At this point we noticed something rather worrying.
    WP_000432.jpg WP_000434.jpg The driver side front end of the subframe was kicking its last, and the rest didn't look much better either. But there was no going back, so we took off the next day.
    On the road (around 1200 miles to South-East Poland) some more problems came. The idle started to hunt terribly, but after flooring it everything seemed to be fine again. I read on the forum, that other ph3 owners experienced the same problem, but I couldn't do nothing on the road. On top of all this, the driver side front disc cracked and got badly warped, rattling and shaking the front so I didn't really dare to drive faster than 80 mph. I was also worried about the subframe, didn't really want to lose the engine halfway.
    In the end, we made it to Poland, but I still had to drive to Hungary from there. Crap idle, virtually no front brakes and a dead subframe, but the worst was yet to come...
    I didn't know, but the winter weather severely damaged the roads in Slovakia and Hungary. Kidding aside, in certain places I was unable to change into second gear because of the holes. In some areas the road surface was completely gone. In other places, the holes were deeper than the wheel. The whole trip was a slalom in order to try to avoid the worst holes.
    Close to the hungarian border, I had two artics coming opposite and doing about 60 mph I was unable to avoid a massive hole. When I heard the massive bang it made, I honestly thought that was it. But the Plague kept going, and after some even more slalom in Hungary I finally made it. I couldn't believe it that both me and the car survived. Awesome. Got Joe to order some front discs, and phoned Ollie to send me a subframe. A week later I was due to drive back to Poland, pick up the missus and drive back to Hungary again, but I didn't fancy doing it with the car in that state. 3 days later the subframe and the discs arrived. However, Joe announced he hasn't really got the time to fit the subframe, but we can do the discs. Or so we thought, they were for a Laguna and didn't fit. As for the idle problem, cleaning the idle valve seemed to have helped. Anyway, I had to drive the car in its current state, so I really wasn't happy...

    The knackered disc (although not very noticeable on this pic) WP_000180.jpg
    Some vids about the shite roads (these were shot during the second trip from Poland to Hungary by the missus, so apologies for the quality:cool:) Also, this isn't the worst of it, only a little 'aperitife' :D

     
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  6. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    You drove it like that ! Crumbs ! You are a braver man than me !
     
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  7. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    You sir are Top Gears 4th presenter

    Epic stuff ;)
     
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  8. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    You are crazy! I wouldn't drive round the block like that. I'm amazed it's still going, enjoying the read. The name is perfect although I feel the final picture to be added to this thread may not be a good one :winthistime:
     
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  9. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    That disc isn't too bad, i've had worse! That subframe is dangerous though, not seen one that bad for a long time lol!

    Still 2 years worth of black plague story to come too, this is epic LOL
     
  10. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    I had no option, but I do have a lot of faith!:challengeaccepted:
     
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  11. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    And hopefully even more after that!:grin.gif:
     
  12. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    Have faith my friend. So do I. :drinks.gif:
     
  13. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    Until one of them manages to receive the Darwin award for killing himself, they are fine. But I'm working on it!:yes3.gif:
     
  14. Lewis

    Lewis Well-Known Member

    That front damper doesn't look correct. To be fair I haven't seen a 21T damper for a while but I'm certain that the steering arm is straight, the one in the photo bends upwards, is it off a different model perhaps?
     
  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Thats a good spot mate, you're right.
     
  16. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    If you read the beginning of the thread, I did mention, they are from a 21 Nevada. They can be fitted but far from ideal. Completely changes the handling of the car. In my next addition to the thread I will write about what problems came up when original shocks were fitted...
     
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  17. r5gordini

    r5gordini Moderator

    This is better tha Eastenders! What a cliff hanger! Can't wait for the next instalment
     
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  18. Kondas21

    Kondas21 Well-Known Member

    Sorry about keeping you guys waiting but I recently had eye surgery and can't stare at the monitor for long. As soon as they are a bit better I'll write. Plus I had to do some work on the Plague:)
     
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  19. r5gordini

    r5gordini Moderator

    No worries at all! Hope your eyes recover soon.
     
  20. r5gordini

    r5gordini Moderator

    No worries at all! Hope your eyes recover soon.
     
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