Another one - Sport yellow meg 250 cup.

Updates.

A local lad popped round in a 250 recently to buy our old forge intercooler. Had a private plate on his 250 that looked decent, asked if interested in selling and at the time answer was no. A couple of weeks later he messaged asking if we were interested in buying the plate as the car was for sale. A deal was struck and its been transferred over, and new plates fitted today. Welcome R55CUP to the fleet.

Took it out yesterday. The overall driving experience is massively improved with smooth cold start and running compared to old map which used to hesitate and rpm hunt when cold. Overall it feels quick as fcuk on the Efi map.

Brake dust is horrendous on the wheels after mapping/few sends recently, front wheels are brown. Needs a good wash! But not enough time yesterday so can wait for another day.

Thanks for reading!!

Nice reg @Brigsy :+1:

I always used to thing private reg’s were for wankers, now I AM a private reg wanker :joy:

Me too. Now 6 out of 8 of our cars have private plates on :laughing:

Updates.

Had the 250 out at the weekend to custom code the rs monitor v1. Massive thanks to @cossie1 for sharing the information and @Mart for doing the business on the custom coding.

I modified a proscan Elm327 cable with switchable can h/can m so i could access the bic module via can multimedia to code.

I then spent all week scratching my head trying to get Ddt4all to work, using the megane r26 to test.
Im no stranger to getting obscure diagnostic programs to work but after installing 4x different versions, none seemed to work right on mk2 meg being honest, very unstable and not confidence inspiring. I even upgraded my diagnostic laptop to a modern lenovo thinkpad which made little difference to how the software ran.

I was going to use Renolink and modified an obd splitter lead to plug in my obdsx cable, however when i tried Ddt4all on the mk3 250 on sat, it worked absolutely fine which was suprising allowing the script to be written without issue.

Original screens on rs monitor below, this was a factory fitted option from new on ours. Basically a load of crap data apart from boost, ait and oil temp which were spread over 2 different pages.

Wrote the ecu with the custom coding using Ddt4all.

First page is filled with the useless info.

2nd page has the decent data thats worth looking at.

All the good data on one page, Boost (recalibrated to allow higher readings to suit current setup), Intake temp, Oil temp and Water temp. Its actually worth using now to keep an eye on things. All works great, its a nice update.

Give it a quick run out to test all good. Needs a wash, wheels are pitted. Next weekends job.

Thanks for reading!!

Nice update that. Way better to see the important info on one screen. Can basically call that screen the ‘driver’ screen and the other one the ‘pub’ screen.

Cheers mate. Perfect way to describe the oem settings, definitely pub!

I always wondered why renault put stuff like brake pressure on there, its useless. Id bet nobody has ever looked at that when driving fast​:sweat_smile:

If it’s loggers brake pressure is useful. It can help your driving style / trail braking for track.

As I said , if you log it or record the screen..

Well it doesnt do either so its bullshit data unfortunately. Being honest, logging stuff like that is way over any normal trackday driver.

What does it monitor then?

It shows bar when pedal is pressed. No logging or peak readings, you would need to have a camera on the screen to record it, which is mostly useless i guess.

It could still be used back for analysis but I appreciate not great without any logging / overlays.

Again, pretty pointless for the trackday driver. Btcc maybe different matter :laughing:

I have started to try and use telemetry to make me a better driver. Overlays of how I brake vs how I should brake for example. Its helped me become smoother in my driving for example.

Updates.

250 out for a few bits yesterday.

First job was to fit a Properfekt recirc valve. I had fitted a blanking plate before mapping and had noted the car flashing up spanner light for a split second on high rpm throttle lift/throttle close, hitting rev limiter when throttle closed. Basically the spanner light/check injection flagged so briefly, i had to record the dials on my rayban meta glasses to freeze the frame to see what was going on.

I datalogged the car as it was with blanking plate a while ago and noted when throttle close at high rpm (5500rpm+), the pre throttle boost sensor would spike 3050mbar for a split second which triggered DF0004. As it was intermittent, spanner/eml did not store permanently so was only lingering in the background.

Datalog below showing gas pedal position zero (light blue) but 3054mbar spike on boost sensor (red trace).

After emails with Chris it was agreed that it could be due to no recirc fitted/blanking plate, with the boost spiking pre throttle body with throttle closed, with hard cut rev limiter also having an antilag kind of effect. Chris said he usually sees around 2500mbar spike with throttle close on the stock 15t turbo.

So with this in mind i looked at options, intially i was going to refit oem but decided to give the Properfekt recirc a try. Its supplied with 2x springs so i put the harder one in to suit increased boost.

Fitted, forgot to take pics but its buried in the turbo area.

Took it out for a datalog after fitting, and the recirc has indeed fixed the problem. No massive spike on pre throttle boost sensor on high rpm lift or rev limiter.

Comparing old logs vs new. 2x laptops sorts the men out from the boys :sweat_smile:

Eml issue is now resolved (with extensive high speed testing yesterday, the car goes like f**k too) added bonus the recirc actually sounds pretty decent with compressor surge at low rpm and quiet at high rpm, much better than oem recirc noise. Being honest, i prefer the reliability of blanking plate but with the higher 1.5-1.6 bar boost levels on a small ish turbo, its prob a good idea having a recirc.

Anyway with that done and boxed off i got onto the next job. The underbonnet sound deadening had suffered on the corner and was a bit floppy and looked shite.

I made enquiries about buying a new one from ren but NLA, so only option was 2nd hand. Found a good used replacement in U-pull it ages ago, used trim tool to remove the push fasteners that hold it to the bonnet and it fell to bits so no good/fail. With this fail in mind when the next good one came up, i then drilled the heads off the fittings to remove it intact. I removed the fittings with trim tool sacrificing the original mat, and fitted the good used one.

Much better, im sure you will agree.

Ive been meaning to wash it for weeks and with weather changing took advantage of a dry day.

Used my Di vessel to rinse. The bodywork is unreal nick for a 15 year old car.

With this done i done some more coding to the rs monitor.

The boost gauge was still going to the top and we had adjusted it to 1800mbar assuming it was using gauge pressure, but all it showed was 1800> on full boost

Note peak reading line maxing out the bar graph.

As i had been logging with Rstuner im used to reading the data in Map absolute instead of gauge pressure. Im also versed in this due to reading standalone ecu map sensor data.

To explain very roughly how this works as it can be confusing after using gauge pressure.

1000mbar on map pressure is “absolute” - its including the vacuum which starts at 0mbar- 1000mbar. You see 1000ish mbar at sea level with engine off (atmospheric)

0mbar of map pressure = full vacuum

1000mbar of map pressure = atmospheric 0psi

2000mbar of map pressure = 15psi of boost

1000mbar gauge pressure is 1000mbar of boost above the atmospheric mark of “0mbar”

-1000mbar of gauge pressure is full vacuum

0mbar of gauge pressure = atmospheric 0mbar.

1000mbar of gauge pressure = 15psi of boost

Some ecu’s work in map pressure - some ecu’s work in gauge pressure depending on setup. Renaults of this era always use map absolute as above.

Anyway back to the point

My rsmonitor boost gauge seems to read in Map Absolute compared to later ones reading in gauge, there is no minus readings on mine. So it was always exceeding upper range as we needed 3000mbar to show full range of map sensor readings as peak on Rstuner is 2600mbar.

So with this in mind i adjusted the upper limit to 2800mbar to give slight headroom. Using a convertor to work decimal to hex with 1200 offset (winging it being honest, ive just learned how to reverse engineer the hex code a bit)

New code uploaded with ddt4all.

Tested and working with readings not maxing out the bar. Note peak line just under full range.

Used Rstuner to confirm readings were good when on the move. All works fine, Rs monitor reading is rounded to nearest 50 (i.e. 2500, 2550 mbar) which i might change to 10 or 1, if refresh/sample is quick enough..i think renault used 50 rounding to keep it clean.

Anyway works great. Pretty pleased with that!

Thanks for reading!!

Renault: Fitting shite bonnet mats that fall apart for 6 generations and counting :joy:

Truth. Mint low miler, knackered bonnet mat. Scrapyard high miler, mint bonnet mat. Work that one out :laughing:

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Long time no update.

250 has been used a bit this year and finally ticked over 19k😄

I give it a once over, motd etc in April and its been used a handful of times. It didnt need a clean so ive not washed it, as only driven in the dry. The brake dust/road muck was getting unacceptable so big clean yesterday.

BH snowfoam, autowheel for brake dust, 2 bucket posh wash

Rinsed and Koch Chemie spray sealant

Rinsed with di vessel and blow dryed

Mrs done the interior

Prob take it off the road for winter in next couple of months.

Thanks for reading!!

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I guess this is like the 225, an investment piece?