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Renault 11 Turbo Phase 2 Restoration

Discussion in '9, 11, 25, Fuego and Laguna' started by Big Steve - Raider, Feb 6, 2014.

Discuss Renault 11 Turbo Phase 2 Restoration in the 9, 11, 25, Fuego and Laguna area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    It's relaxing Andy lol. It's good to show how much effort/time actually goes into a resto.
    One thing though Steve, some joins like your last pic aren't be sealed in from factory. What you've done is prob better but just a small detail if your wanting it original looking. Your progress will be overtaking my 11 soon :(
     
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  2. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    What Haz is trying to say @Big Steve - Raider@Big Steve - Raider is it will be virtually worthless when done.
    Ill take it off your hands.
     
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  3. Big Steve - Raider

    Big Steve - Raider Staff Member

    Ok Andy, let me know when you want to collect. :grin.gif:
     
  4. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Absolutely. In fact, every time Steve updates with more sealing activity I can feel mine melting away a 'lil bit more :D
     
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  5. Big Steve - Raider

    Big Steve - Raider Staff Member

    Not really much of an update so to speak (been too busy visiting Family & Friends during recent weekends) but I went crazy with the latest Aldi offer on an air compressor and accessories, so I will be able to spray the bits & pieces I want to:
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    I've got plans to have a go at the small pieces of welding required soon, so will update you all on how that goes.... :read.gif:
     
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  6. Chris Smith

    Chris Smith Well-Known Member

    Steve, do you require a heat lamp/paint curer ..
     
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  7. Big Steve - Raider

    Big Steve - Raider Staff Member

    Got any pictures @Chris Smith@Chris Smith?
     
  8. Chris Smith

    Chris Smith Well-Known Member

    Will get some this week and send you over the info on it ;)
     
  9. Grizzly

    Grizzly Well-Known Member

    greats, you perform re bulding in details
     
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  10. Big Steve - Raider

    Big Steve - Raider Staff Member

    WELDING - 1 : STEVE - 2 (Steve Wins!)

    Had a day in the garage yesterday with my Best Man Jez to have a lash at the welding required on the 11, as it's holding me up doing any more work at the moment! :) It's the first time we've done any welding since we were both apprentices in the early 90's, so I wanted someone there for morale support! :grin.gif:

    There were 3 parts that required attention, first was a hole in the rear chassis rail:
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    We used a fine "Dremel" style grinder for the fine sections:
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    Then a larger grinder for the main cuttin:
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    Out she comes!! The inside of the Box Section looked pretty clean. I will be covering all this with a Dinitrol/Waxoil type product (not confirmed which one yet):
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    Gave the surfaces a little tickle up with a grinding wheel to remove the paint from where we needed to weld. (Yes they're safety glasses, not just some ones I got from a Madness gig :grin.gif: They're actually special ones for boatyards so you don't get dazzled from the light on the water... well that's what my mate said who I got them off, who works with boats!)
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    Made a little winning plate for the gap:
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    Then started the WELDING!! :aggressive.gif:
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    Not going to win any prizes, but not bad for a first effort:
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    Feeling pretty confident, after that success, we moved onto the next piece, just ahead of the rear axle mounting:
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    You now see how useful the little stool is @Mart@Mart :grin.gif:
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    So this was where everything was going right, and Steve was in the lead with 2 point, and the welding trailing behind with 0. Next part was a piece of very thin steel in the floorpan that had become pitted, so I wanted to repair it. Again the offending piece was marked for removal:
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    Then removed:
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    And then a new piece nicely shaped to fit:
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    This was exactly the point where it all went to sh1te!!! :ireful2.gif::ireful2.gif::ireful2.gif::ireful2.gif::ireful2.gif: The welder was blowing holes in the metal like crazy... even with me trying to spot weld it..I got thoroughly p1ssed off, and decided to call it a day :negative.gif:

    Will go back to it another day... and cut a LARGER patch to start with!!

    Thanks for reading :)
     
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  11. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    What thickness wire are you using Steve? If it's .8 drop to .6 and drop your current, use max gas as well and let the gas flow for a second before you start the wire feed. Your trigger should be staged to bring the gas in first.
    I found .8 is absolutely impossible to get a decent weld and just blows holes through panel thickness like that. It's still not very easy with .6 tbh but do-able.
     
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  12. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Some tips here

    http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/thin-metal.htm

    Also backing the steel you're welding with copper can help when welding steel. It stops the weld pool dropping out (hole) but the weld wont bond with the copper. Hold a copper block behind it or clamp a flattened bit of copper pipe behind it IYSWIM.
     
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  13. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    Very jealous of your shell, think I had more rot in my engine bay than you have in the whole car!
     
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  14. Mart

    Mart Staff Member

    Good to see the little stool getting involved.
     
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  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Not forgetting its had a couple of bags of sand worth of stripping, rust removal and welding before steveio got his grinder hat on. I only wish I had the time and facility to do the same to my 9 :)
     
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  16. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    That looks great fun !

    How did you manage to get the site address etched into the metal though ?

    plate.PNG
     
  17. Brigsy

    Brigsy Media Manager

    Not a bad attempt at the old welding Steve, its a nightmare to do on the thin stuff. @Kris M@Kris M is the expert on welding the french tin! Might be worth investing in a big bottle of gas as its cheaper than the small bottles.
     
  18. Big Steve - Raider

    Big Steve - Raider Staff Member

    Yeah it's the 0.6mm wire Dave, and I'm using Argon shield.

    Think as @Brigsy@Brigsy has recommended, I'm going to splash out on a proper hobby bottle, not used those Janky Machine Mart ones which don't have more than a fart inside :grin.gif:
     
  19. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    CO2 for mild steel mate not Argon.
     
  20. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    Think he means argosheild mix Dave.
    Hmmm, @Kris M@Kris M, when shall I drop my 11 off ;).
     
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