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Pssst Podders - Your Old TX

Discussion in 'General' started by malcolm, Jun 9, 2011.

Discuss Pssst Podders - Your Old TX in the General area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. mrdini

    mrdini Well-Known Member

    yes i know what your saying, this is why i was think to simplify it like you say close off the gap,,,i also thought about the moisture trap under the tray when fitted but seeing yours made me think it looks as it should so may be worth while and just seal it all up well,,ill see as ive started digging in another area today and found some more to keep me busy :eek: ........what kind of hammers would you recommend for shaping? i have lots of regular hammers being a carp/joiner but i was looking in the frost cat and thinking i could use maybe a bodywork specific type for shaping?
     
  2. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    The thing I find most useful is a steel work bench. Clamp the sheet over the edge and you can knock a neat straight bend in it. For that a soft faced hammer is good as it doesn't dent the metal (mine came from a DIY store and is nylon one side and rubber the other).

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    A dolly is useful. I just use a universal one. I've got a couple of fancy hammers but never use them. I much prefer the 1lb hammer in the picture. The flat on the rear of the hammer is good for tidying up inside edges. It's not too heavy so you can get a bit of control, but it's heavy enough to knock metal about.

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    Apart from that off-cuts of thick metal sheet, bar and pipe are handy for forming odd shapes.

    Wouldn't bother buying a fancy hammer, but avoid chinese dollys - they tend to be a bit light and you need to finish them yourself.
     
  3. mrdini

    mrdini Well-Known Member

    ok i have those hand tools,would like a dolly and steel bench thanks for piccs and tips.
     
  4. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Great metal work. Looks really good!!
     
  5. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    I copied the features in the old battery tray blindly. Lucky - turns out the scallop to the rear is to allow you to remove the upper wishbone bolt.

    I've finally started ordering bits. New upper wishbones were only £17.50 from the local motor factors (one of mine is rusty and the bushes have gone). I've ordered all the suspension, brake and engine bits so ought to be able to start reassembling soon.
     
  6. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    Bad news - the engine isn't good despite it's very low mileage. Previous owner had a head gasket failure and didn't see the need for antifreeze in coolant. Owners before that didn't see the need for oil changes. Several years later all that has caused damage.

    Some water has got into the middle two cylinders. Wants new liners and pistons. Will have the head checked out first as that is corroded and bent (and for all I know cracked).

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    The sump was full of ugly brown emulsified oil. The water seems to have caused corrosion on the bearings (the light coloured bubbles are rough to the touch).

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    I've checked the book and am still uncertain about parts compatibility. Have a set of Gordini Atmo bits in the scrap bin which I'll compare in the morning as they are available from Mecaparts.

    Any tips about parts sourcing much appreciated.
     
  7. phildini

    phildini Well-Known Member

  8. sparkie

    sparkie Well-Known Member

    any 1397cc renault liners and N/A pistons will do. mk1 or mk2 it doesnt matter...
     
  9. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    I checked with Mecaparts and all the bits are the same as the Gordini atmo engine apart from the pistons (which turned out to be OK on mine). Gone mad and ordered bits.

    The head is off at the machine shop for a skim and crack test. If that's OK I'll be able to build the engine and stick it back in the car next week.
     
  10. mrdini

    mrdini Well-Known Member

    i do have 3 new 1397 na pistons which are no use to me at all, if they any good to you malcolm you can have them for postage cost. i know it will mean putting them on your rods,
     
  11. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I've checked the pistons from the two middle bores and they look fine. If the outer two are OK I'll reuse them. Failing that I'll give you a shout!

    Keen to get the car finished now. I've been playing with my new Super5 and it's great fun.
     
  12. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    The cylinder head was a month in the engine shop. And no wonder - it must have taken ages to bore the new exhaust valve seats randomly as far as to 2mm into the combustion chamber.

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    Still in discussions about that one. The engine shop thinks their work is acceptable. As these heads are specific to the engine and awfully rare something needed to be done. Out with the big dremmel.

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    Apart from that the rebuild is moving along nicely. A new timing chain and sprockets arrived in a very expensive box from Mecaparts.

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    And some new cylinder liners in an even more expensive box from Mecaparts (well worth it as they are better machined than the UK aftermarket stuff)

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    Nearly there now. The cylinder head is on so only a few bits and pieces to bolt on before I can refit the engine.

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  13. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    Had a productive weekend. Engine went in and I've started bolting shiny bits back on. Still a load to do but I ought to be finished by the summer if things go well.

    Thanks for the tip about the screen seal infill Phildini - Woolies ones worked a treat!

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  14. podders

    podders Well-Known Member

    This fills me with joy to see that JEY is still alive!! Been away for 12 months and not been on the site for even longer. Looks like a mega job to get it back on the road and really looking forward to seeing the finished article .... maybe, one day, I'll see it again in a show?? For the moment, I have to content myself with a 1973 R4. Thanks for posting all this stuff Malcolm and I'll be a regular following your progress..... Matt :D
     
  15. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    Hi Matt, I was wondering if you would ever pop in again. I've only driven the TX up and down my driveway so it'll be interesting to see what it is like when it's finished. It's not far off now.

    I've not made much progress over the last month - been rebuilding a R4 engine instead, but that is running again now so hopefully will have something to report in a few weeks.
     
  16. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Hey Malcolm.
    How is the car getting along?

    Have you got an exhaust for it?
    I have been searching really hard to replace the TS/TX system on mine. it has been a bit tricky to hunt down.

    Managed to get the correct middle section, and hopefully sorting the correct rear silencer.

    Would you be interested in one too?

    Renault are showing the rear silencers in stock, but want £106+VAT for them. Hopefully sorting a good quality pattern one from Germany. For £40+VAT+Postage.
    Middle section is closer to £30+VAT....

    I already had a NOS front silencer, so have not tried to source one of those. I see there are a few on Ebay Spain though!
    Regards
    Sam
     
  17. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

  18. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    The TX has been a bit slow since April but work has finished for a few weeks so I should get it finished soon.

    I started the engine for the first time this morning and it seems to work!

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    The interior is back in too. How do you guys clean the interior? I'm a bit wary of removing the seat covers and putting them in the washing machine but Autoglym interior shampoo does nothing. Might run with some seat covers to preserve the original seats as they are still in very good condition apart from the muck.

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    I was thinking about the exhaust only this morning. Mine is going to be complicated as I'm planning to fit some wheelarch liners. I'll offer up the original exhaust to see if it will get in the way of what I want to do. If it does I'm better at stainless steel TIG now so might make one - bends, fittings and silencers are available and it would be maybe £150 to £200 in parts to make a full system. Otherwise I'd be keen to know where you found your parts and if the Gordini turbo exhaust fits.
     
  19. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Looks good!
    I imagine it was nice to hear it run.

    We have a karcher upholstery cleaner - about 15 years old. It sprays water/detergent and sucks it up at the same time. It works pretty well, although sometimes needs a second go at it.
    If your ever towards London/Essex way, your welcome to have a go with it...

    When I fit some better seats, I will fit covers too. Do you know of any nice plain fitted ones?

    I bought a good TIG recently, but have only had a quick go at stainless (usually on Aluminium), and found it really tricky! Really different for some reason.... quite blobby and it didn't pool/flow well. Any secrets?

    The middle took 4 hours phoning around all our motor factors, and trying to get the parts chap to earn his money! After some cross referencing and lots of repeating myself, I managed to find somebody who had two in stock for sameday delivery! So I bought two.
    Silencer is a bit trickier. Lots of searching online. I think it was 'wannapart' that can get one from Germany.
    Or for £40 more I could get a Genuine Renault one.... Not sure what to do...

    How much is it to hire a mandrel bender Malcolm? Could work out cheaper to make it from tube and bend it instead of buying pre-bent? Although I haven't done the sums!
    I saw your lovely R4 arch liners, which got me thinking too...
     
  20. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    I've not looked in to seat covers. I fitted some generic ones on my supercinq (£20 on eBay). Ought to try one on the TX to see how they cope with the bolsters.

    I had the same thing with TIG. Have a look at http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/tig-tutorial.htm Trick is to have the tungsten really close to the work. You can get away with murder on aluminium unless you have to weld an inside corner (fillet). Practising fillet welds on steel without any filler rod is brilliant for learning.

    Motor factors are terrible these days. I'm still trying to find rear brake shoes and cylinders for mine but I keep getting the dullard guy on the counter who knows nothing about cars. He sold me Girling cylinders and early Bendix shoes last time around. Mine look like late Bendix but I've yet to offer up my own Girling cylinders just in case it is early Girling.

    Will keep you posted on ideas for wheelarch liners.
     
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