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My Current 21 In Pictures

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by la21t, Feb 8, 2014.

Discuss My Current 21 In Pictures in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Well everything's arrived from powder coater and the car was dropped to work on Friday evening....
     

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  2. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Thanks to @stu21t@stu21t for saving me a fortune on the powder coating.
     
  3. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    NICE! I need to get all over this sort of stuff :)
     
  4. Lewis

    Lewis Well-Known Member

    Where did you get the powder coating done?
     
  5. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    I dont know tbh, Stuart knows someone who knows someone and it cost me £125
     
  6. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Quick update.....it rests like this for about a week while I wait for the new downpipe to be made up.
    It starts, runs and idles on the new build and in pics the GT2860 is fitted.
     

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  7. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    Is the europa cup maniford new to the equation as well ?

    What are the total part updates since last mapping ?
     
  8. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Since last map/blow up :
    GT2860RS
    Europacup manifold
    Westwood liners
    Wossner Pistons
    and highly likely EFI Parts supplied AEM Water/Meth.
     
  9. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    Thats quite a few extra mods then ! Any guesstimates power wise ? Or will you just be happy with what you get ?
    Will the pistons drop the CR at all ?
     
  10. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    Not really bothered by numbers tbh mate, @Haz@Haz intimated in another thread that I seemed bothered by the higher number and yes that was true but now Im a little more educated on the whole process of my little 8v, I'd sooner the torque was higher.
    A little more usabilty on all road types methinks.
    Losing a straight line race with a Pulsar making less power than me made me realise I'm chasing shadows a tad with my 8v tech.
     
  11. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    Not at all, before the thread got out of hand I was trying to discuss whether you were trying to make it more reliable, or more power.
    I think differently to you and Dave. Personally I always want the same or higher bhp than torque. If you torque is wildly higher then it's all happening too low in the rev range imo.
    If it was all about the numbers I'd just throw my f4r turbo'd lump in.
     
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  12. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    Looking good though, and I'll be having a bash at some big boost next month so should offer another comparison :)
     
  13. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I'm not sure its different thinking, more what we like is different. I love the torque punch of the 21 in the midrange. Thats what its always done well, thats where it fights its battles the best and thats what I usually tune to keep or accentuate.
    As it stands now it's epic, considering the spec. I'm actually worried the 12v will change the nature of it so much that i'll want the 8v back.
     
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  14. la21t

    la21t Well-Known Member

    No mate seriously I went to Scoff and said give me the highest numbers seen on a 21 with this spec. 297 gave me an erection but as you said I was 1degree from knock and later events proved that to be too close.

    Knocking the timing back 5degrees with a 2.7 psi increase and a cam saw +46bhp and -18lbft.

    If funds permit after Ive moved I'll go big valves and a not so race cam.

    I liked the way it drove on a std engine if I'm honest. Felt very urgent.
     
  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    This is all sorts of wrong, but I still lol'd!

    My 12v will get you pregnant, baby!
     
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  16. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    Its all very interesting !
     
  17. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    I wonder what gearbox to use with the F4R turbo and going longitudinal or transversal under the hood? ;-)
     
  18. stu21t

    stu21t Well-Known Member

    Hahahahahsha
    I nearly fell over when I read that!
     
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  19. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I was thinking maybe a 21 GTX Subframe with a transverse F4R and JC 'box, and modded wishbones to mate up to the 2.0 suspension struts. You would have LOADS of room for the O2M box conversion then too.

    Unless it was a Quadra, then i'd need to keep it longtitudinal, and i'd need to see if the F4R would clear the subframe - of the H shape to decide which way to go.
     
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  20. andybond

    andybond Staff Member

    I assume the subframes from the superpro cars arent about ? That would make life easier !

    ( sorry for hijack Lee )
     
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