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Fluffy

Discussion in 'Renault 5 GT Turbo' started by Adey, Feb 7, 2014.

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  1. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    OK - for the time being, I'll be continuing my progress with Fluffy here, I think I'm right in saying that I have to link images from external sites like dropbox etc?
    Currently, Fluffy is up in the air and is halfway through fitting a T28 with .49 rear, BMS downpipe and Dave Reeds old exhaust. At the same time, I'll be fitting an oil temp guage (I assume the sump it the best place for this), and relocating my AFR sensor position into the engine bay. At the same time I'm going to be looking at my oe oil pressure connections as they are reading all over the shop.
    I'll get some pictures up as I go.
     
  2. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

  3. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    OK - just started to do the oil temp position, the 1st thing I need is a boss for the sensor which is a 1/8 ntp, I do have one in stainless steel, but you can make one quite easily by using a brake union as below
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../JrRZcKN7bcw/w424-h565-no/20140125_104805.jpg
    drill it out to take the 1/8 thread
    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-.../P5RRPbW8gtM/w424-h565-no/20140125_104931.jpg
    then tap it
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../eTDb9Rt_P-8/w424-h565-no/20140125_105129.jpg

    And there you go - the sensor fits like a glove.
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../J6HdzEOlnWg/w424-h565-no/20140125_105148.jpg

    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../kWgn-MQY-Bg/w424-h565-no/20140125_105155.jpg

    This is the 2nd one I have done as I tapped in too far with the 1st and although it felt tight, it bottomed out at the end of the thread, this one naturally tightened on the threads.
     
  4. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    I wish I knew what I was doing. Nice to see another resto/project thread.
    I'm fudging my way through bud - it's just luck that I have the bits n bobs hanging about and a logical approach.
    I wish I could be as positive about the oil pump. Just took it out to shim it (as the sump was of due to welding in the temp sensor boss) to raise the oil pressure to find.......
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../7JOu4ieqDt8/w753-h565-no/20140126_092816.jpg
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-.../4VzZY4-tkqk/w753-h565-no/20140126_092836.jpg

    Which is disappointing - looks like a new pump will be needed here and an inspection of the big / main ends.
    And to put the icing on the cake I went and picked up the red hot freshly welded sump to give me .................................
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../6XRNpIRHeY0/w424-h565-no/20140126_093625.jpg

    Not so much of a genius now LOL.
    Fluffy bites back.
     
  5. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    A bit more done.
    got me all cleaned up, boss welded in, repaired and sprayed matt black - not too fussed how it looks, got the new pump from CGB and that will go in next week.
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-.../GnWXJAyK3i4/w753-h565-no/20140128_193259.jpg

    I found that the bottom of the sump was rusted inside, which I have now wire brushed back and treated with some rust eater stuff, I'll give it another wire brushing and then get some oil in there. I'm not overly happy with it going back on, but it's baffled and I intend to get some more track time out of him this year, so don't want to go back to un-baffled. I can't think of anything more to do with it.
    Anyway, onto oil filters,
    I've got 3 different ones to show you,
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../dgmf6kaAU24/w753-h565-no/20140129_174834.jpg
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-.../TNPgC_ydIu0/w753-h565-no/20140129_174840.jpg

    The one on the right is I think from a Clio 182 which has been on Ol' Fluff' for the last 6 months or so, the one in the middle I have picked up from a local spares shop, and then there's the ebay special on the right. The Mann one seems best, it looks like the right size and has a relief valve whereas the others don't.
    Stotty
     
  6. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    According to Briggs - the smaller the filter the higher the pressure - I'm not sure how this works, but I'll be running the Mann one initially and saving the micro filter as a back-up. If I get on ok with the Mann - I'll be ordering 10 or so from France. @ £5.60 delivered you really can't knock it.
    Anyway - just got back from Rochdale for my Northern part of my 40th celebrations, hopefully I'll be all up and running before the end of this week.
    Did I show the oil temp and oil pressure clocks mocked up and in position?
     
  7. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    Pics as follows.
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../HhlkU2qcJVs/w753-h565-no/20140202_171510.jpg
    This is the take off point for the pressure gauge - I've gone for the mechanical item, as the oil feed that Hel made up was too short, despite drawings and measurements, so I needed to raise the platform a we bit, so this an-4 to an-4 with 1/8 npt union was just the ticket. Obviously I'm going to send the capillary away from the hot side on final assembly, but this gives you an idea. I then send that to the back of ......
    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-.../FqbN43i5Fps/w753-h565-no/20140202_171443.jpg
    https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-.../32IJTnYqTz4/w753-h565-no/20140202_171436.jpg


    Got the genuine Durite mount from e-bay, about £5 delivered brand new and it will be living ........
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-.../ziqELeNqeMI/w753-h565-no/20140202_171341.jpg

    Roughly there.
     
  8. Dre5gtt

    Dre5gtt Well-Known Member

    Great work, got a few photos of your car from last year at FCS look forward to seeing it this year with all the upgrades :)
     
  9. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    Just for info this is a thread from rtof for TNT Andy and not my build
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
  10. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    Lol, I didn't go to FCS.

    Adey - Thanks for moving this over.
     
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  11. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    Got a bit more done last night, got the subframe cleaned off, straightened it out a wee bit here and there and gave it a coat of Hamerite as a thanks for taking the strain over the years. It'll get another coat tonight. I also got on with wiring the 2 new gauges and have found everything I need to connect to behind the dash apart from a permanent live supply which I'l find tonight. A word of warning to anyone probing about, make sure your meter is connected to read voltage, not Amps - fuses don't like that.

    Also whilst mooching around, I found a couple of areas where I have re-routed various pipework where chaffing is evident, so, some proprietary shielding has been installed and also some loose gauges etc which have now been re-fixed.

    For tonight - complete the gauge wiring and give the subframe a 2nd coat. Time permitted, I can now offer the exhuast up for final fitting, the front gearbox support is done, as is the mid hanger, I have the rear and exit hangers to do, but that shouldn't be too difficult. The odd thing with this v-band set-up is I need to be more accurate when setting the height on the hangers.

    I'll get pics up tonight.
     
  12. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    If it helps, period Renault wiring looms have solid red wires for permanent live. Yellow is ign live, and FWIW, Blue is lighting live (instrument and switch lighting etc) which is useful to know for wiring in gauge backlighting!
     
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  13. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    That's very useful Dave, thanks.
     
  14. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    Cheers Dave - got all the electrics in place and the sump / sib frame got a 2nd coat for good measure.

    Also a picture of the Engine mount bottom exhaust support mount as per Dave Reed, that's it before the exhaust is on, but it will make more sense when it's all offered up. Unfortunately I can't get on with it until next week - which is a bit of a pisser.

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    Last edited: Feb 12, 2014
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  15. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    Got an hour on Fluff' last night.

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    Got the mid mount in position and you can see the 2 rear mounts awaiting the exhaust to be offered up for final positioning and tweeking.

    [​IMG]
    New hangers in place just need cutting and welding in position.

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    I also got the exit mount on, but ran out of time for getting photo's etc, all welds are painted and protected against the weather. I've stripped the front exhaust bobbin which I'll need to strip the exhaust down again and replace, then it's time to get Fluffy back on the ground.
     
  16. Brigsy

    Brigsy Media Manager

    That mann filter looks the part. I would change the copper pipe for oil pressure for a braided pipe matey, i had one many moons ago on another car and it snapped.
     
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  17. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    Cheers Jon - I was concerned about this, where did you get the braided one made up?
     
  18. TNT Andy

    TNT Andy Well-Known Member

    And I've had oil leak at this point before. Pft Pft - Boom - not good. I take it I can make this up using some AN-4 and some unions to suit?

    yes the filter does look right, I managed to source these direct from France at less than £6.00.
     
  19. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Just use an AN4 to pipe adapter, use some high pressure braided line and then another adaptor from the pipe to the gauge. All available on eBay with a 10-second search.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-4AN-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27bdebdaa1

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-4-4AN-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item256d0f7b94
     
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  20. Brigsy

    Brigsy Media Manager

    Thats exactly how i made mine Dave, easy and cheap.
     
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