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5 or 6 Years off the Road

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by ta5jda, Jan 23, 2014.

Discuss 5 or 6 Years off the Road in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Thanks both!
    Is there any interchangeability on the coils? I think mine has three connectors going to it.
     
  2. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    No the Ph1/2 are not interchangeable with the Ph3 coils.

    I think the coil pack is similar to a lot of other distributor models through the range of that era though,
     
  3. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

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    I have 3 different types, the one in the middle is in bad condition (I think that is a phase 3 because of the hole for the lambda sensor). The others are ok
     
  4. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Being in germany, it would be a right ball ache to send over I think, we're not heading over until christmas I suspect.
    I wonder if I can knock something up in the area near the drive shaft, or maybe something like this would be a good replacement.
     
  5. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    I'm 10 km from german border, if you want one i'll send it to you for postage price, and you put me in first place if you ever think about selling the car. Lol
     
  6. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Doh, what a muppet, completely forgot you were in Luxembourg.

    I'm always thinking of selling it, ha. Just think what would be the chance of finding another one over here, let alone a rust free one. Surely you can just pop over one of your other borders to france and get one, or have they started shooting up in price there now? I think mine must be worth about 3000 yoyos nowadays.

    How should those heat shields be held in place? Mine was just exhaust clamped onto the downpipe, which probably contributed to it falling apart.
     
  7. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    In France the good ones start to get up in price, in Germany they are rare and most of them phase 2 with cat. Yours looks quite clean, 3000 would be a good deal:grin.gif:
    There is a black quadra for sale in bavaria, needs some work, but i'm still interested.
    The heat shield is bolted on top to the 90' elbow after the turbo and clamps over the exhaust 2 or 3 times.
     
  8. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    I spotted that Quadra, looks really smart in the pictures (albeit only two of them!).

    It's a typical car advert for Germany I would say, absolutely no information other than a couple of basics.
     
  9. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    :negative.gif::ak:

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    And away it goes after a couple of years of fun.

    Gone to a very good home, I think we'll be updated on its progress.
     
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  10. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    I drove her home save,
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    and parked her along the little sister,
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    I had lots of traffic today, but enjoyed the ride a lot, completely standard 21 Turbo, I felt 15 years younger;-)

    Plans: Get it registered here, have a look at the AC / heating, new Turbo oil feed pipe, put on an exhaust system i still have from another one, RS235/Evo4 Ecu on it's way to me, boost controller/ Bleed Valve, the 2 "standard look" intercoolers from AX-Autoparts and maybe the Silycone-Pipe kit.
    And some day a Paint job to have it perfect, leave the rest standard.
     
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  11. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Excellent!

    Hope the registration goes as easily as it should do!
     
  12. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member


    Yeah, it should, it's original and good condition. I was out for a little drive today, enjoyed it a lot, everything works so smooth;-)
    Ordered a "resistance" for the heater blower.

    Later I checked the parts that came with, some very good spares! Good deal!
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  13. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Fantastic, looks like a very nice car :)
     
  14. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    Just to have an idea on MOT here. The last time Joe was to the TüV in Germany, the car had not a single fault. Last week it got 4 fail points here ...
    -Headlights not shinning bright enough, well I put the headlights from my black one on now, they are newer. (And I can swap them over again later)
    -car looses to much oil (from the gearbox), everything is cleaned up now and gasket on its way
    -wheel track not well adjusted, should be good now
    -handbrake not well adjusted, should be sorted too now,

    I bet if you want to find a fault, you can find it on every car;-)

    The good news, Paperwork was ok, so it's registered on me now.
    I hope MOT will work out during next week, I want to enjoy this great Classic;-)
     
  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Indeed, especially on an older car and also when a test is as tough as the TUV!!
     
  16. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Back in the days of living in the UK I was always under the impression that the german TÜV was a really strict nightmare.
    Was only when I came over here and went through it that I saw it was a bit of a joke.
    Especially if you have a newish car, you're through in 15 minutes and good for 2 years.
    Anything modified is another matter however. They weren't keen on the 21 when it had those lower springs on the front, however if I hadn't given them the out of date certificate I doubt they would have noticed they were non-standard.
     
  17. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    Well, with the second try it got fresh MOT for 2 Years. Very glad about this, Dump Valve fitted, Exhaust, Ecu and new Turbo Oil feed Pipe will follow in the next days. And planning to get a respray in spring to have the car perfect.
     
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  18. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Excellent news, pleased for you mate!
     
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  19. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    Today i managed to work 3 hours on the 21.
    now it's got a radio/cd, a new oil feed pipe (not easy to get the old one of, because i could not find a 24mm spanner), the ecu is in, and a bleed valve with booost gauge fitted too.
    I hope to fit the exhaust soon and have a testdrive to see if everything works fine.
    What is the safe boost pressure for a standard engine? If i remember right, around 1,2 bars, but it's been some years, so correct me if i'm wrong.:av:
     
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  20. Andyquadra

    Andyquadra Well-Known Member

    what ever 16-17psi is in new money.
    This will probably open a large can-o-worms about "I run this on a standard engine" "well I run ...... and its never caused a problem"............
    All I'll say is that the standard map sensor can only read up to 1 bar/14.7 psi, so going just over it is still a gamble.....

    Now, I'll put my can-o-worms....I used to run 25psi on a standard engine with octane booster and never had a problem.......................
     
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