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5 or 6 Years off the Road

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by ta5jda, Jan 23, 2014.

Discuss 5 or 6 Years off the Road in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    great numberplate!
     
  2. johnspin

    johnspin Well-Known Member

    Nice :)


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  3. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Been off in the UK for a week or so, will finally get to give this thing some running this week.

    Need to get the most for my 507? (gulp) per year road tax.
     
  4. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Guess my thread was on the old forum.....

    So after a winter of it sleeping in the garage and me having zero motivation (it's hard to go out and work when its -10ºC) we've had nice weather over the last few days, so I've been out to have a look at the 21.

    Some clear problems need sorting before I go and register it this year.

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    That's the drippings of brake fluid under the rear caliper! I took it apart and it's all in surprisingly good condition actually. The piston looks perfect, so presumable it's just the seals that are cattled. I'll order a couple of sets. The disks look pretty ropey too though, so I may aswell change the disks and pads at the same time, I presume they are pretty cheap.

    Next... there is a propper pool of oil under the engine.

    From what I can see there are two sources.

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    That's the oil feed to the turbo, seems to be leaking where the flexi hose connects with the solid area then dripping down.
    Anyone know if these are available?

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    That's looking at the passenger side driveshaft from the bottom.
    No idea what that lump of white stuff is on the shaft.
    Looks pretty much like that seal is leaking, on the other side it's fine.
    Are these seals available? I actually design & develop seals for a living, but it's always a real ballache to get samples of our standard products, so much easier to buy them. Hopefully that one can be changed in situ, after removing the driveshaft of course.

    Other things to do.....

    Replace front door pins and bushes, I see those are available on ebay.
    Replace the front shocks. Anyone got any they want to sell? We're coming over to the UK in the merc for easter so could be a good chance to buy some.
    Oli has a couple on ebay, but looking at the pics they seem to both be for the same side I think.
     
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  5. r5gordini

    r5gordini Moderator

    For the turbo oil feed, I used this:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Braided-S...416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35cb6529f8
    Works great!
    Please click the link to order as the site will get a small amount of money from you buying it!
    Rear discs are out of stock everywhere at the moment. I order such parts from MespiecesAuto - I have a bulk-buy discount from him but he has none.
    I would be surprised if Oliver's got the sides of the shocks mixed up - he's a very helpful guy and I'm sure would double check/confirm with you if you asked. I have stocks of strut top bearings if you want those.
    Andrew
     
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  6. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Interesting....
    How does that connect up then?
    Do you have to add some special connectors to the turbo and block?
     
  7. Adey

    Adey Staff Member

    @ta5jda@ta5jda i have moved your thread back out of hibernation so you can keep us updated with the build (y)
     
  8. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Thanks very much!
     
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  9. r5gordini

    r5gordini Moderator

    Well done @Adeyspec@Adeyspec !
    My garage fitted the turbo oil feed - I think it just went straight on. I don't think the photo is representative of the actual feed pipe.
     
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  12. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Yes the driveshaft seals are available.

    The white stuff will be a blob of silicon sealer to hold the driveshaft pins in. it shouldn't be there. Replace the pins with the newer one-piece ones when you take em off.

    Oil feed pipes, @Andyquadra@Andyquadra used to get very good ones made, but I don't know if he can still get them or not.
     
  13. Andyquadra

    Andyquadra Well-Known Member

    I'm sure I've got 2 or 3 still in stock, but would have to find them since the house move, they used to be £35+ delivery

    Regards the blob of silicon on the drive shaft, I though it had to be there to stop gearbox oil leaking out the split pin?
     
  14. Lewis

    Lewis Well-Known Member

    Yes the sealant should be there on the two piece type roll pins to stop the gearbox oil from escaping.

    I've never seen these single piece pins you talk of Dave. Even when I ordered some new ones from renault I always got smaller inner and larger outer pins.
     
  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I got some last year, I think. Defo one piece numbers. Much easier to get in and out. I'll see if I kept the packet with the P/N on it.
     
  16. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    What can I say, I've done sod all since posting these questions almost a month ago, other than take the caliper apart and ordering some new seals from ebay.

    Did you manage to find the split pin part number Dave? I wonder if it's worth trying just to swap those rather than doing the seals as a first attempt, it's not really clear where all that oil came from and I guess the silicone being there suggests a previous owner tried to fix it.

    I think i'll keep an eye on that oil feed pipe, I don't really want to swap it for a non standard looking one as I'd like to get H plates at some point, so it needs to be as standard as possible.
     
  17. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    No I don't have the number sadly! I'll ask about it next time im at the dealers.
     
  18. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    So..... We sold the wife's little Fiesta ST on friday due to her being about 3 weeks from popping out a sprog and it just being too much hassle with a 3 door.

    She's gonna use my Merc until we find her a suitable larger car, so it became pretty urgent that I get the 21 on the road.

    So I've finished up a couple of jobs on it this weekend and been to reregister it this morning. I removed the driveshaft splitpin and reassembled with plenty of sealant to see if that helps, the gearbox has had some new juice too, at least I know there is enough in there now!

    The heat shield on the downpipe was knackered so I've had to whip that off. Doubt i'll be able to find another one, so not sure what to do, maybe wrap the whole downpipe.

    So drove it in this afternoon. It's running grand, still has the same annoying misfire every now and then, I suspect that's due to the coil, I'm not really sure though.... The one mine has seem to be quite expensive.

    Also it's running a bit hot really, never seems to overheat but must get close, its 25ºC here today and driving leisurely (not fast) its at the top of the middle zone. The rad looks ok still, but I suppose it could be a bit clogged.
     
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  19. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I just picked up a pair of phase 3 coils for £35, brand new, i'll see if the same supplier does the earlier ones.
     
  20. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    I'll have a look if i have a decent heatshield tomorrow.
     
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