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5 or 6 Years off the Road

Discussion in '21 turbo' started by ta5jda, Jan 23, 2014.

Discuss 5 or 6 Years off the Road in the 21 turbo area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    How long does the test take then?
     
  2. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Its pretty much exactly the same as a UK MOT, they check all the same ****e. So about half an hour.

    Only things I think they do differently are that they check you have a warning triangle & first aid kit. Plus they always check the water content of the brake fluid.
     
  3. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Almost there!

    It's sailed through the test, however a completely unexpected error.

    It's got some kind of lowering springs on but the gutachten (approval) is expired. So it needs an updated approval certificate. It looks like the company (technic design) are out of business. You'd normally just download it from there website but in this case not a clue!

    Might just try and locate some normal ones. It doesn't look lowered I don't think but feels harder.
     
  4. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

  5. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Good find!

    Any idea how much effort it is to reset the rear for the extra height? Presuming they actually bothered to lower it.
     
  6. Turbjj

    Turbjj Well-Known Member

    Depends on if the torsion bars come out fine or are seized...
     
  7. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

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    Do these look right for the rear? Came with no info
     
  8. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    I dont think you can split the rear shock/spring setup to fit new rears, and besides they look too big to me. Too many coils.
     
  9. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Ok, after being told by the garage that it defo had aftermarket springs I headed over today and they are clearly standard on the rear.

    So that's a job saved at least. Will see how level it looks when the fronts are done before I play with the torsion bar.

    Had a look at front too.

    i58.photobucket.com_albums_g249_ta5jda_21_F1F649DF_5C7E_4D99_AF15_0223870C1B28_zpswtpnjs85.jpg

    Rubbing badly
     
  10. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    Wow! I have never seen a spring rub there....where did you get them from?
     
  11. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    On the car when I got it.

    An official Renault Deutschland option part!
     
  12. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    This ****ing car...............

    I am sure it never wants to be on the road.

    Took the struts off, no problems, 5 minute job, Took the springs off and noticed one came off much easier than the other.

    The rod in one of the dampers is not coming out as far on one as the other side. Seems the same resistance, but something just stopping it coming out far enough. With my spring clamps I cant compress the spring enough to get the spring on.

    Not sure which one is right and which is wrong.....

    Presumably these have different dampers than a normal 21?
     
  13. Haz

    Haz Well-Known Member

    If bought as a kit with lowering springs the damper rods are shorter, could have one shorter and a std?? Have you mixed the spring hats up?? Is one definitely shorter?? A 2 person job but compress the spring with clamps, stand the strut up and apply extra compression with body weight while someone else pulls the damper out and gets a few turns on the nut. If it came off it will go back on again.
     
  14. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Looks like the shock on the other side (longer one) is newer so possibly a replacement. But the part no is correct.

    Actually that one sprung away when unbolted from the car. So it could be that one is faulty and the other one is as it should be.

    I reckon I can get some better spring compressors and some help to install the springs.

    Any idea how much the rod should stick out of the tube?
     
  15. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    You do have to compress the springs quite a lot to get them on, I tend to clamp some grips around the shock piston to pull it up with once the spring is compressed. Dont clamp too hard and wrap a rag around it first though.
     
  16. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info.....

    Used a jubilee clip and a bit of elastomer (to protect the rod) along with some new spring compressors.

    i58.photobucket.com_albums_g249_ta5jda_21_Parts_compress_zps56524bcc.jpg

    Worked great!

    Here is the a comparison to show how much longer one is than the other.

    i58.photobucket.com_albums_g249_ta5jda_21_Parts_shocks_zpsacd2e880.jpg

    I am sure the shorter one is correct. Mainly because I can't get the longer one onto the fooooking car.

    So looks like I need a new one for the front right.

    Is it only Sachs who make these things? No where seems to list em!

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
  17. DaveL485

    DaveL485 Staff Member

    The left hand shock in the pic, check the steering balljoint hole, and the balljoint on the car....are they smaller than the other one? That looks l
     
  18. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Think it must be just the angle of the photo, the look the same in reality.
     
  19. Red21

    Red21 Well-Known Member

    You could also have a damaged/broken damper unit, as I had this last week on a Trafic where the internal stop broke up allowing the rod top travel up to far until it hit the valving that controls the damping rate.
     
  20. ta5jda

    ta5jda Well-Known Member

    Finally road legal. Managed to get the strut on in the end by getting the bottom bolt in and levering it in.

    The paperwork problems turned out to be no problem on the end.

    i58.photobucket.com_albums_g249_ta5jda_21_7B132CF6_BE99_4F60_A80C_F7DB2DBE1E50_zpssvrfsyxg.jpg

    The boobies number plate is because we used the same one on the old panda 100hp we had and never used the green sticker which let's you drive into the controlled emissions zones (most German cities) so I thought I may as we'll be sneaky as the 21 doesn't comply.
     
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