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123 Electronic Ignitions

Discussion in 'Modifying' started by RSM, Feb 4, 2011.

Discuss 123 Electronic Ignitions in the Modifying area at TurboRenault.co.uk.

  1. RSM

    RSM Member

    Hi Everyone,

    Have been away for a while but happy to be back on the forum. Also very happy to have my TS back.

    I was wondering if anyone has experience on the 123 Ignition products. http://www.123ignition.nl/id/44.html

    I am looking at buying one for my '84 1400 TS. Is it worth the cash, any good. Would converting my old mechanical distributor do the trick just as good as this one?


    Thanks
     
  2. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Hi there,
    My dad has fitted a few and says they are great. They come with different 'maps' to choose from depending on your exact engine. Perfect reliable timing.
    A bit expensive at around £300 ish I think, but a nice addition, and looks period.
    The vacuum advance is electronic too.
     
  3. Hannu

    Hannu Well-Known Member

    Can they be re-mapped, eg on a rolling road, to complement a tuned engine?

    Also, what could be done to make them fit the Alpine/Gordini engine, mechanically?
     
  4. phildini

    phildini Well-Known Member

    My brother had one fitted to his Citroen DS ( old Ds ) and he seems to be happy with it.
     
  5. RSM

    RSM Member

    Thanks for all your feedback. I'm going to order one.

    To answer Hannu's question, I think they do have a version of the distributor that you can interface with using a USB cable and laptop. Check their website
     
  6. stubee99

    stubee99 Member

    How did you get on with this? Cheers

    Stuart
     
  7. RSM

    RSM Member

    Finally got round to ordering it. It should arrive withing the next two weeks. I will definitely post some feedback on it.

    Im happy that I'll finally be rid of that vacuum advance rubbish. I could never get it to work right. Always misfiring at revs anything higher than idle!
     
  8. RSM

    RSM Member

    Okay so I finally received my 123 ignition distributor today and fitted it. :D

    I am please with the result. 10 minutes to install and a PERFECT fit! Idle is much smoother where I used to have an uneven sort of misfire. Much smoother on the motorway. I do however thing that the selector switch is on the wrong setting. These things have different dwells and advances pre-programmed for the different R5 engines and I may have picked the wrong one as it does feel a bit sluggish.

    That said I actually dont know what code motor I have. Is it an 810? 840 , 845??. Is there any way of telling. All it has on the identification plate on the chassis is R1229 (the model) and its a 1400 TS of course. Is it marked somewhere else?
     
  9. mrdini

    mrdini Well-Known Member

    there should be an engine identification plate on the block somewhere. usually on the side near distributor area. the ts engines as far as i knew are 1300 not 1400cc i may be corrected on this?
     
  10. 5atmo

    5atmo Well-Known Member

    The TS should be an 810 engine according to Haynes.
     
  11. RSM

    RSM Member

    Thanks guys. I will check and try the settings for the 810.
    It is a 1400 definite. South-African TS.
     
  12. RSM

    RSM Member

    So I found the ID plate on the block. It was above the oil filter. Its an 810 G7/26

    The distributor works really well and I would recommend it to whoever is considering investing in one.
     
  13. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    I am tempted to buy one. There doesn't seem to be a UK distributor though.
    Do you mind if I ask how much it cost please?
    Thanks
     
  14. RSM

    RSM Member

    Sure. It was about the equivalent of 250 pounds. Just some advice, If I had the chance again I would have bought the programmable one. I just cannot seem to find the optimum curve within the fixed selection. Perhaps you would be better off with that option.
     
  15. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    It may have to wait until later in the year. They seem great.
     
  16. ceebdub

    ceebdub Well-Known Member

    I think it would be money well spent, the distributors in my Gordinis have given me no end of trouble, it would be nice to forget about that particular part. I may save up for one.
     
  17. Sam Fish

    Sam Fish Well-Known Member

    Same here with my TL.
    The condenser failed on one and left me stranded. The vacuum advance went on the other.

    Alot of money, but I am sure they would sell for a healthy amount second hand if the time came.
     
  18. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    They aren't available for the Gordini so far as I know. I'd have one like a shot if they were - spent ages fiddling with the advance springs on my Gordini Atmo engine to get it to run at revs and at idle. They had gone slack. (Pillars holding the springs can be bent to compensate).
     
  19. sonicdave

    sonicdave New Member

    I fitted one to my r5 alpine engine in my A110. I did modify it to fit though .it's pretty easy to do .you just need to take the pinned foot? Off the bottom of distributor and extend it to the correct length with some steel bar .i drilled and sleeved mine and bolted it together.Bit of a bodge ,but works great!
     
  20. malcolm

    malcolm Well-Known Member

    I was fiddling around with my Gordini Atmo ignition on Monday again. It's still not right. There is much more power hiding in that engine that can't be accessed without messing something else up.

    I'll try to get hold of one of the programmable 123 distributors and try a similar bodge.
     
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